If I have a patient who has a stricture that's been dilated 2 or 3 times, my next move would be to address reflux. Most of the patients we leave on anti-reflux medications when they are discharged from the hospital. I would argue that virtually all patients have some degree of gastroesophageal reflux. If they have a stricture that is not responsive to dilations, it dilates easily and then restrictures. I personally am very aggressive about doing a fundoplication on those patients
I completely agree, and I think that you have to be very careful. I personally like to just use a blade, electric cautery and with a little buzz and then mostly blunt dissection with the flat end of the blade, and I think that. That can help you and staying right on the esophagus, which is usually very thickened because it's an obstructed piece of bowel. I would rather be in the esophagus than be in the trachea up high in the chest.
You can get extraordinary length on this. And Mike and I have done a few cases for kids who had disasters, multiple operations elsewhere, who had caustic injuries that were involved all the way up to the pharynx, where we had to do a lot of work just on the pharynx to get that open, and then literally sew the colon interposition to the pharynx and then down to the stomach, which is obviously tough to do with a gastric pull-up.
I've not found personally that an oscillator makes a whole lot of difference. I think if the child has a, has a large fistula, and typically it's actually, I believe this tends to be a bigger problem in younger, that is more premature infants who have more significant lung disease, and their compliance of their lungs is really what drives the The air into the GI tract as opposed to into the lungs.
Our method here is that if we have a child with no gas in the abdomen and we take them to the OR and put a G-tube in, many times we'll do, we'll put something up the distal esophagus at that point and just get a fluoro shot. But then we'd wait a couple of weeks and we have our patients go down to interventional radiology where we have a protocol for measuring the gap.
I pass the interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine. And you can mobilize the colon. You can divide the gastric dual aporotomy, divide the colon attachment to the stomach, and then mobilize that sigmoid redundancy transhiatally, and then reinestimose the colon to the stomach.
StatementIn younger patients, neuroblastoma is often picked up either prenatally on ultrasound, or in younger kids (two-year-old or three-year-old) as a solid abdominal mass.Open
StatementWhen neuroblastoma patients have metastatic disease, they may present with either bony pain or potentially neurologic symptoms from cord compression.Open
QuotationSo in the younger patients, they're oftentimes picked up either prenatally on ultrasound, or in younger kids, say two-year-old or three-year-old, it might be picked up as a solid abdominal mass.Open
StatementWhen considering neuroblastoma as part of the differential diagnosis, it is important to get catecholamines (either urine or serum) as one of the most diagnostic laboratory tests for this tumor.Open
StatementMost children with suspected neuroblastoma would get a cross-sectional imaging study, either a CT scan or an MRI.Open
StatementIf imaging suggests neuroblastoma (central abdominal mass or adrenal mass rather than kidney mass), the next test would be a nuclear medicine study, typically an MIBG study.Open
StatementThe MIBG study is helpful for confirming the diagnosis of neuroblastoma and can also demonstrate metastatic disease.Open
QuotationAbout 10% of neuroblastomas are MIBG negative.Open
StatementAbout 10% of neuroblastomas are MIBG negative.Open
StatementSome centers, including Cincinnati Children's Hospital, would get a PET scan looking for tumor uptake as well as potential metastatic disease.Open
StatementIn the INRGSS system, tumors that are localized are categorized as L1; if localized but have image-defined risk factors (encasing nerves or vessels), they are L2; if they have metastatic disease, they are M.Open
StatementThere is a special category MS for children less than 18 months of age who have metastases to either the bone marrow or the skin.Open
StatementBased on the most recent iteration of the neuroblastoma staging system (INRGSS), it is possible to assign a stage before any invasive procedure is performed.Open
StatementThe prior neuroblastoma staging system required tissue diagnosis before assigning a stage.Open
StatementThe INRGSS pre-biopsy staging system was specifically created to allow studies from different centers in different countries to be compared based on the pre-surgical staging of the patient.Open
StatementSome surgeons would approach resection of a localized neuroblastoma with laparoscopy depending on the size of the tumor.Open
StatementA child with an adrenal mass on the right side and a positive MIBG scan but no evidence of metastases could potentially be treated with a primary resection of the mass via laparotomy.Open
StatementFor very large masses that encase the aorta, cava, or other major vasculature, all you really want is tissue for diagnosis, which can be obtained through open biopsy, laparoscopic biopsy, or core needle biopsies done by an interventional radiologist.Open
StatementIn addition to NMIC status, you want to look for 1P and 11Q deletions and Shimada histology in neuroblastoma biopsy tissue.Open
StatementThe most important biologic risk determinant to obtain from neuroblastoma biopsy tissue is the NMIC status.Open
StatementNeuroblastoma risk is divided about 50-50 between the low risk categories and the high risk category, with a smaller percentage being intermediate risk.Open
StatementBiologic risk determinants from biopsy will tell you what risk category the patient falls into: very low risk, low risk, intermediate risk, or high risk.Open
QuotationNMIC and age greater than 18 months are the most important prognostic determinants for neuroblastoma.Open
StatementPatients with high risk neuroblastoma receive aggressive chemotherapy including peripheral stem cell transplant times 2, aggressive surgery with the goal of greater than 90% resection of the tumor, followed by radiation, immunotherapy after chemotherapy, and potentially retinoic acid therapy.Open
StatementNMIC amplification and age greater than 18 months are the most important prognostic determinants for neuroblastoma.Open
StatementFor intermediate risk neuroblastoma, the goal at the time of debulking or resecting the primary tumor is to achieve at least a 50% response from the initial volume of the primary tumor through the combination of neoadjuvant chemotherapy and surgical resection.Open
StatementIntermediate risk neuroblastoma tumors get varying cycles of chemotherapy based on the biologic risk factors they have.Open
StatementJed Nocturne led a study through the Children's Oncology Group looking at patients less than six months of age with either a prenatally diagnosed or shortly postnatally diagnosed localized mass, showing these patients can be observed with the expectation that the vast majority will avoid any type of surgical procedure.Open
StatementThe low risk neuroblastoma group, depending on the actual age of the patient and how it is diagnosed, could potentially be followed simply with observation.Open
StatementPatients with metastatic neuroblastoma typically receive four or five cycles of neoadjuvant chemotherapy and then are reassessed.Open
StatementIn patients with MS disease, simple observation can be the treatment path.Open
StatementMS disease is specifically for patients who have a primary site with metastatic disease to the liver, the skin, or the bone marrow (specifically not bone, not cortical bone) and is less than 18 months of age.Open
StatementIf the metastatic disease is progressing on neoadjuvant chemotherapy, then surgery is not indicated.Open
StatementIf the tumor and metastatic disease are responding to neoadjuvant chemotherapy, one would attack the primary tumor site with a resection, with many advocating for attempting a greater than 90% resection.Open
QuotationMS disease is specifically for patients who have a primary site with metastatic disease to the liver, the skin, or the bone marrow, specifically not bone, not cortical bone, and is less than 18 months of age.Open
StatementIf MS disease patients progress or develop respiratory issues because of an enlarging liver mass, treatment might be elected because of the complication of the size of the tumor, but the tumor itself usually does not have to be treated.Open
StatementYou can biopsy the skin lesions in MS disease and that will give you the diagnosis.Open
Neuroblastoma
StatementAdrenal hemorrhage is the most common cause of prenatal suprarenal mass, especially with history of fetal stressOpen
StatementThe GetNucturne study showed that prenatal/neonatal neuroblastomas can be safely observed with careful ultrasound surveillance, with many patients spared surgeryOpen
StatementLymph node status in neuroblastoma does not change therapy, unlike Wilms tumorOpen
StatementApproximately 10% of neuroblastomas are not MIBG-avid, which is when PET scan may be usefulOpen
StatementTumor shrinkage in neuroblastoma plateaus after cycle 2-3 of chemotherapy per LaQuaglia and Von Allman studiesOpen
StatementCOG high-risk study showed >90% resection improved event-free survival but not overall survival (approximately 245 patients)Open
StatementEuropean neuroblastoma group study (approximately 1000 cases) showed >90% resection improved both event-free survival and overall survivalOpen
StatementApproximately 70% of high-risk neuroblastoma patients can achieve >90% resectionOpen
StatementNeuroblastoma theoretically does not invade vessel adventitia, though invasion has been observedOpen
StatementThere is zero correlation between surgeon operative note description of resection extent and post-operative imaging findingsOpen
QuotationThere is zero correlation, zero. There is absolutely no correlation between the findings on post-op imaging and the findings that are reported in the op note.Open
Daniel's statements about Aerodigestive / ENT6 statements
Aerodigestive & Esophageal Surgery - Difficult Tracheal Esophageal Fistula
StatementIf a patient is aspirating from above (oropharyngeal or esophageal source), an anti-reflux procedure does not help and may make them worse.Open
StatementRoutine bronchoscopy is now standard practice for all type C TEF repairs at Cincinnati Children's, often done in collaboration with ENT colleagues.Open
StatementDual scoping (simultaneous bronchoscopy and esophagoscopy) allows scopes to 'shake hands' across a fistula, light transillumination through tissue, and injection of saline or air to reveal subtle openings.Open
QuotationThe tissue damage extends beyond what you can appreciate with the naked eye, and the progression of it probably extends beyond what you would think is the normal time frame.Open
StatementIn a patient with multiple bronchoesophageal fistulas and chronic bronchiectasis, lobectomy with resection of the esophageal pseudo-diverticulum can be performed safely; the esophagus can be primarily closed if not strictured.Open
Daniel's statements about Appendicitis12 statements
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Daniel's statements about Biliary Atresia12 statements
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Daniel's statements about CHARGE Syndrome12 statements
Aerodigestive & Esophageal Surgery - Difficult Tracheal Esophageal Fistula
StatementIf a patient is aspirating from above (oropharyngeal or esophageal source), an anti-reflux procedure does not help and may make them worse.Open
StatementIf a patient is aspirating from above (oropharyngeal or esophageal source), an anti-reflux procedure does not help and may make them worse.Open
StatementRoutine bronchoscopy is now standard practice for all type C TEF repairs at Cincinnati Children's, often done in collaboration with ENT colleagues.Open
StatementRoutine bronchoscopy is now standard practice for all type C TEF repairs at Cincinnati Children's, often done in collaboration with ENT colleagues.Open
StatementDual scoping (simultaneous bronchoscopy and esophagoscopy) allows scopes to 'shake hands' across a fistula, light transillumination through tissue, and injection of saline or air to reveal subtle openings.Open
StatementDual scoping (simultaneous bronchoscopy and esophagoscopy) allows scopes to 'shake hands' across a fistula, light transillumination through tissue, and injection of saline or air to reveal subtle openings.Open
QuotationThe tissue damage extends beyond what you can appreciate with the naked eye, and the progression of it probably extends beyond what you would think is the normal time frame.Open
QuotationThe tissue damage extends beyond what you can appreciate with the naked eye, and the progression of it probably extends beyond what you would think is the normal time frame.Open
StatementIn a patient with multiple bronchoesophageal fistulas and chronic bronchiectasis, lobectomy with resection of the esophageal pseudo-diverticulum can be performed safely; the esophagus can be primarily closed if not strictured.Open
StatementIn a patient with multiple bronchoesophageal fistulas and chronic bronchiectasis, lobectomy with resection of the esophageal pseudo-diverticulum can be performed safely; the esophagus can be primarily closed if not strictured.Open
Daniel's statements about Colorectal / ARM & Hirschsprung17 statements
StatementAdrenal hemorrhage is the most common cause of prenatal suprarenal mass, especially with history of fetal stressOpen
StatementThe GetNucturne study showed that prenatal/neonatal neuroblastomas can be safely observed with careful ultrasound surveillance, with many patients spared surgeryOpen
StatementLymph node status in neuroblastoma does not change therapy, unlike Wilms tumorOpen
StatementApproximately 10% of neuroblastomas are not MIBG-avid, which is when PET scan may be usefulOpen
StatementTumor shrinkage in neuroblastoma plateaus after cycle 2-3 of chemotherapy per LaQuaglia and Von Allman studiesOpen
StatementCOG high-risk study showed >90% resection improved event-free survival but not overall survival (approximately 245 patients)Open
StatementEuropean neuroblastoma group study (approximately 1000 cases) showed >90% resection improved both event-free survival and overall survivalOpen
StatementApproximately 70% of high-risk neuroblastoma patients can achieve >90% resectionOpen
StatementNeuroblastoma theoretically does not invade vessel adventitia, though invasion has been observedOpen
QuotationThere is zero correlation, zero. There is absolutely no correlation between the findings on post-op imaging and the findings that are reported in the op note.Open
StatementThere is zero correlation between surgeon operative note description of resection extent and post-operative imaging findingsOpen
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Daniel's statements about Congenital Lung Lesions (CPAM)30 statements
StatementBaseline chest X-ray may be useful if patient later presents with respiratory symptoms and consolidation, providing comparisonOpen
StatementBaseline chest X-ray may be useful if patient later presents with respiratory symptoms and consolidation, providing comparisonOpen
StatementIf crura come together easily during paraesophageal hernia repair, primary closure without mesh is preferredOpen
StatementIf crura come together easily during paraesophageal hernia repair, primary closure without mesh is preferredOpen
StatementPosterior defect is the usual problem site in paraesophageal hernia; mesh should cover the posterior repairOpen
StatementPosterior defect is the usual problem site in paraesophageal hernia; mesh should cover the posterior repairOpen
StatementWaiting only 3-4 weeks for revision risks operating during maximal inflammation periodOpen
StatementWaiting only 3-4 weeks for revision risks operating during maximal inflammation periodOpen
QuotationI hate this operation, whether it's open or laparoscopic, because you're trying to do a mechanical fix to a physiologic problem, and it's uh miserable.Open
StatementFundoplication attempts mechanical fix for physiologic problem, making it inherently difficult operationOpen
QuotationI hate this operation, whether it's open or laparoscopic, because you're trying to do a mechanical fix to a physiologic problem, and it's uh miserable.Open
StatementFundoplication attempts mechanical fix for physiologic problem, making it inherently difficult operationOpen
StatementGastric disconnect is excellent operation in cognitively impaired patients who don't eat much and have refractory reflux or multiple failed fundoplicationsOpen
StatementGastric disconnect is excellent operation in cognitively impaired patients who don't eat much and have refractory reflux or multiple failed fundoplicationsOpen
StatementDextrocardia makes thoracoscopic visualization challenging for EA/TEF repairOpen
StatementDextrocardia makes thoracoscopic visualization challenging for EA/TEF repairOpen
StatementFor unstable EA/TEF patient, laparotomy with G-tube and vessel loop around GE junction allows fistula control and ventilation, deferring thoracic repair until patient stabilizesOpen
StatementFor unstable EA/TEF patient, laparotomy with G-tube and vessel loop around GE junction allows fistula control and ventilation, deferring thoracic repair until patient stabilizesOpen
StatementBronchoscopy should be performed in all EA/TEF cases to identify additional fistulasOpen
StatementBronchoscopy should be performed in all EA/TEF cases to identify additional fistulasOpen
StatementTracheal reconstruction for esophageal lung can be performed via median sternotomy: divide trachea, repair esophagus posteriorly, reconstruct trachea and fish-mouth abnormal bronchus to create lung connectionOpen
StatementTracheal reconstruction for esophageal lung can be performed via median sternotomy: divide trachea, repair esophagus posteriorly, reconstruct trachea and fish-mouth abnormal bronchus to create lung connectionOpen
StatementIf initial TEF ligation is performed too far from trachea (2cm), significant esophageal length is lost, potentially preventing primary anastomosisOpen
StatementIf initial TEF ligation is performed too far from trachea (2cm), significant esophageal length is lost, potentially preventing primary anastomosisOpen
StatementMagnet anastomosis can be attempted when esophageal ends are tacked together but gap prevents primary anastomosisOpen
StatementMagnet anastomosis can be attempted when esophageal ends are tacked together but gap prevents primary anastomosisOpen
StatementBaseline chest X-ray may be useful if patient later presents with respiratory symptoms and consolidation, providing comparisonOpen
StatementIf crura come together easily during paraesophageal hernia repair, primary closure without mesh is preferredOpen
StatementPosterior defect is the usual problem site in paraesophageal hernia; mesh should cover the posterior repairOpen
StatementWaiting only 3-4 weeks for revision risks operating during maximal inflammation periodOpen
StatementFundoplication attempts mechanical fix for physiologic problem, making it inherently difficult operationOpen
QuotationI hate this operation, whether it's open or laparoscopic, because you're trying to do a mechanical fix to a physiologic problem, and it's uh miserable.Open
StatementGastric disconnect is excellent operation in cognitively impaired patients who don't eat much and have refractory reflux or multiple failed fundoplicationsOpen
StatementDextrocardia makes thoracoscopic visualization challenging for EA/TEF repairOpen
StatementFor unstable EA/TEF patient, laparotomy with G-tube and vessel loop around GE junction allows fistula control and ventilation, deferring thoracic repair until patient stabilizesOpen
StatementBronchoscopy should be performed in all EA/TEF cases to identify additional fistulasOpen
StatementTracheal reconstruction for esophageal lung can be performed via median sternotomy: divide trachea, repair esophagus posteriorly, reconstruct trachea and fish-mouth abnormal bronchus to create lung connectionOpen
StatementIf initial TEF ligation is performed too far from trachea (2cm), significant esophageal length is lost, potentially preventing primary anastomosisOpen
StatementMagnet anastomosis can be attempted when esophageal ends are tacked together but gap prevents primary anastomosisOpen
StatementContrast enema plus suction rectal biopsy is the standard initial workup for newborn distal bowel obstruction suspected to be Hirschsprung disease, not upper GI series.Open
StatementLaparoscopic-assisted pull-through is preferred over purely transanal approach because contrast enema underestimates transition zone level in approximately 8% of cases (Manu Proctor's data).Open
QuotationYou don't want to be confused by the factsOpen
StatementFemale patients may have higher incidence of long-segment Hirschsprung (50-50 ratio for total colonic aganglionosis in girls) compared to males.Open
QuotationI've been burned so many times by that, what looks like an obvious low transition zone and you end up just chasing it and chasing itOpen
QuotationWe actually published a paper of false positive contrast enemas in newborns. So there was a transition zone that looked like Hirschsprung's, and it was not Hirschprung.Open
StatementTissue diagnosis is mandatory before operating for Hirschsprung disease; contrast enema alone is insufficient due to false-positive transition zones in newborns.Open
StatementIn sick patients with enterocolitis, diversion may be necessary before obtaining tissue diagnosis if pathology results will be delayed several days.Open
Quotationthere is an occasional patient who is really sick from enterocolitis and you may not wanna wait for a tissue diagnosis. It might take a couple of days to get.Open
QuotationThere are two definitions for ultra short segment Hirschmann's disease that people use, and these kinds of discussions get get foiled because one person's using one definition, another person's using another one.Open
StatementUltra-short segment Hirschsprung has two definitions: (1) aganglionosis less than 5cm from dentate line, or (2) absent recto-anal inhibitory reflex with normal ganglion cells (internal sphincter achalasia). The latter is not true Hirschsprung disease.Open
Quotationit's hard for me to imagine how Doctor Pena could not believe in that. You know, why would there be a disease where there's a minimum of 5 centimeters of a ganglionosis?Open
StatementManometry showing normal recto-anal inhibitory reflex rules out Hirschsprung disease in older cooperative children (age 5-6+); if reflex is absent, biopsy is still required due to false-negative manometry.Open
Quotationif there's a normal reflex. Uh-huh. Now, if they don't have a normal reflex, then, then you have to biopsy them because the, the, there can be false, false, whatever you want, I don't know, negative, positive, false absence of the of the reflexOpen
StatementHypertrophic nerves on biopsy indicate Hirschsprung disease; they should not be present in normal anal canal biopsies even though ganglion cells are normally absent in the anal canal.Open
StatementThe anal canal in adults is 3-4 centimeters long (versus 1cm in infants), so biopsies at 3cm in a 16-year-old may actually be sampling anal canal rather than rectum.Open
StatementCecal perforation in Hirschsprung disease usually occurs with shorter-segment disease (not total colonic aganglionosis) because the cecum becomes most distended, similar to rectal cancer causing cecal perforation.Open
Quotationthe cecum gets more distended and pops. So, uh, I would close the cecal perforation, bring out a loop ileostomy, and if the baby was stable enough, I would do some serial biopsies in the colonOpen
StatementFor cecal perforation from Hirschsprung: close the perforation, create loop ileostomy, and perform serial colonic biopsies if patient is stable to identify transition zone level.Open
QuotationI tend to wait longer in long segment disease because they have terrible perianal excoriation if you, if you pull them through too early.Open
StatementLong-segment Hirschsprung patients should wait 6-12 months after diversion before definitive pull-through to allow stoma output to thicken and prevent severe perianal excoriation.Open
StatementWhen transition zone is in the cecum or ascending colon, pulling down the cecum as a pouch leads to stasis and enterocolitis; ileal Duhamel (sacrificing the cecum) may have better outcomes.Open
Quotationmy experience with, um, with a very, very short pull, pull through like using the cecum essentially have not been very good. So in general, when I'm faced with that anatomy, I just do a, treat it like total colon disease and I do an ileal duhamel.Open
Quotationwhen it's just the cecum, it's, it's this big bag of stuff, and, and they end up with a lot of stasis and enterocolitis.Open
StatementIf transition zone is at hepatic flexure or beyond, preserve the colon; if only cecum is ganglionic, consider ileal Duhamel instead.Open
StatementSuction rectal biopsy should not be performed in children older than approximately 15-18 months due to patient cooperation issues; open rectal biopsy under general anesthesia is preferred.Open
Quotationyou gotta, even though you might, the, the specimen may come out, the logistics of taking a 2 year old and, uh, holding them they can fight back. They're too old.Open
StatementIn older children (age 3+) with severely dilated colon from Hirschsprung, primary pull-through without diversion risks anastomotic complications; leveling colostomy with resection of dilated segment is preferred.Open
QuotationWe've been really leaning towards doing diversion after just to protect our anastomosis.Open
Quotationif we do this, take the, try to resect these colons transanally. The stretch that we put on the sphincter is enormous, and their, uh, continence postoperatively is definitely, definitely suffers.Open
Quotationthat thing that you showed, um, is so mammothly dilated, I don't think that would close. That's why I was initially going to say, Divert, but I think that that's not going to come down no matter how long you wait.Open
StatementMassively dilated colon in older Hirschsprung patients may shrink after 6-8 months of diversion in younger children (age 3) but is less likely to shrink in adolescents (age 17).Open
QuotationI have had success in, uh, getting that distal bowel to, uh, shrink in size. Um-hum. With the stoma for 6 or 8 months.Open
Quotationthe older the kid, the less likely that it's going to shrink down in size. But, uh, at this age OK. Uh, I think it will.Open
Quotationpatient was at a well-known institution in Ohio. And had, was seen by GI and had multiple biopsies that were normal. Those were done by colonoscopy, um, and then, so the chart read no Hirschprung's diseaseOpen
StatementColonoscopic biopsies for Hirschsprung diagnosis in older children can be unreliable and miss the diagnosis; full-thickness rectal biopsy is more reliable.Open
StatementInitial management of Hirschsprung-associated enterocolitis: IV broad-spectrum antibiotics and saline rectal irrigations. Consider diversion only if patient has peritonitis, sepsis, or SIRS.Open
Quotationjust caution to watch out what type of biopsy was performed and how Hirschprung's was ruled out. It's, it's an argument for the manometry uh diagnosis because biopsies in an older child can be unreliable.Open
StatementBotox injection decreases the number of hospitalizations for enterocolitis in post-pull-through Hirschsprung patients, though it does not work in all cases.Open
StatementChronic oral metronidazole is used liberally for recurrent Hirschsprung-associated enterocolitis, sometimes for months; symptoms may recur when medication is stopped.Open
Quotationwe have a lot of kids on chronic, uh, metronidazole. And when they, you know, they can be on it for three months and then you try taking them off and they start getting symptoms again.Open
Quotationwe actually published a, uh, that Botox decreased the number of hospitalizations for enterocolitis in, in those children. It doesn't always work, though.Open
QuotationThe incidence of enterocolitis is significantly higher in children with trisomy 21, as much as double the incidence in genetically normal kids.Open
StatementIncidence of enterocolitis is significantly higher (approximately double) in children with trisomy 21 compared to genetically normal children with Hirschsprung disease.Open
StatementFor recurrent enterocolitis post-pull-through: perform exam under anesthesia with biopsies to rule out residual aganglionosis or distal obstruction before treating the enterocolitis itself.Open
Daniel's statements about Esophageal Atresia276 statements
Aerodigestive & Esophageal Surgery - Difficult Tracheal Esophageal Fistula
StatementIf a patient is aspirating from above (oropharyngeal or esophageal source), an anti-reflux procedure does not help and may make them worse.Open
StatementRoutine bronchoscopy is now standard practice for all type C TEF repairs at Cincinnati Children's, often done in collaboration with ENT colleagues.Open
StatementDual scoping (simultaneous bronchoscopy and esophagoscopy) allows scopes to 'shake hands' across a fistula, light transillumination through tissue, and injection of saline or air to reveal subtle openings.Open
QuotationThe tissue damage extends beyond what you can appreciate with the naked eye, and the progression of it probably extends beyond what you would think is the normal time frame.Open
StatementIn a patient with multiple bronchoesophageal fistulas and chronic bronchiectasis, lobectomy with resection of the esophageal pseudo-diverticulum can be performed safely; the esophagus can be primarily closed if not strictured.Open
Tracheoesophageal Fistula with Dr. Daniel von Allmen
QuotationIt certainly is an interest that we have here with a whole group here in Cincinnati, but it can be an incredibly difficult, challenging problem. It's one of the great cases in pediatric surgery and one of the most difficult cases, so it really runs the whole spectrum for sure.Open
StatementCincinnati Children's has a multidisciplinary aerodigestive center that includes ENT airway surgeons, GI, pulmonary, general surgeons, nurse practitioners, geneticists, and dietitians.Open
StatementInjecting air into the NG tube and obtaining a plain film helps visualize distention of the proximal esophageal pouch.Open
QuotationIf I can't see a distended proximal pouch, then I worry. I worry that either one of two things either that the diagnosis is incorrect and in fact it is not an esophageal atresia, or that there could be a proximal fistula which is allowing that proximal pouch to decompress.Open
StatementLack of visible proximal pouch distention raises concern for either incorrect diagnosis or presence of a proximal fistula allowing pouch decompression.Open
StatementPreoperative echocardiogram is essential to assess cardiac anatomy and identify right-sided aortic arch.Open
StatementRenal ultrasound and spine evaluation for tethered cord are needed but are not necessary before addressing esophageal atresia.Open
StatementConventional wisdom suggests left thoracotomy for right-sided aortic arch, though the operation is somewhat more difficult with the heart more in the way.Open
StatementIf right-sided arch is discovered intraoperatively during right thoracotomy, it is possible to complete the operation from that side, though some reports suggest higher incidence of swallowing problems.Open
StatementIn a stable, larger baby not requiring intubation, it is reasonable to wait until full resources are available (Sunday or Monday) rather than operating emergently on Saturday.Open
StatementProlonged delay risks colonization of the GI tract and soiling of the lungs.Open
StatementOscillator ventilation has not been found to make a significant difference in managing infants with large fistulas and abdominal distention.Open
StatementAir preferentially entering the GI tract rather than lungs is a bigger problem in more premature infants with poor lung compliance.Open
StatementTreating with surfactant and improving lung compliance helps as much as changing ventilator type in managing fistula-related ventilation problems.Open
StatementOne risk in managing the deteriorating infant with TEF is waiting too long to make a decision, which can lead to an emergency situation with inability to ventilate.Open
QuotationOne of the risks is to wait too long to make a decision, and, and I've made that mistake myself, and then it becomes an emergency if you can't ventilate the child.Open
StatementBronchoscopic placement of Fogarty balloon in the fistula is difficult unless expertise and equipment are immediately available.Open
StatementG-tube decompression may paradoxically worsen ventilation by creating even lower resistance pathway, allowing more air to flow from trachea to GI tract rather than to lungs.Open
StatementLaparotomy with vessel loop around gastroesophageal junction with gentle traction (Rommel tourniquet technique) can be used to stabilize critically ill infant, with G-tube placement and delayed definitive repair after several days.Open
StatementIn esophageal atresia with associated duodenal atresia, if the child is stable, consider fixing duodenal atresia first to avoid repairing esophagus upstream from an obstruction.Open
StatementBoth esophageal and duodenal atresia can potentially be repaired in the same operative setting if the child is stable enough.Open
StatementRoutine intraoperative bronchoscopy documents fistula location, assesses for proximal fistula, and most importantly identifies laryngeal clefts that are easily missed.Open
QuotationWe have seen that many times in patients who are referred who've had multiple thoracotomies. Nobody ever did a bronchoscopy and the child actually has a laryngeal cleft.Open
StatementLaryngeal clefts have been seen many times in referred patients who had multiple thoracotomies but never had bronchoscopy.Open
StatementThe rate of missed second fistula is approximately 1%.Open
StatementHigh fistulas exist on a spectrum from essentially a trifurcation of the carina to fistulas high enough to be approachable through the neck.Open
StatementEndotracheal tube positioning depends on fistula location: for fistula at carina (trifurcation), tube should be placed higher; for high fistula, tube should be placed distal to fistula but not into the fistula itself.Open
StatementExtrapleural approach offers the advantage of potentially limiting soilage of pleural space if there is a postoperative leak.Open
StatementDividing the azygos vein has no morbidity, gives better access, and frequently guides to the fistula location.Open
StatementFor open repair, the azygos is typically ligated and divided with suture.Open
StatementThe 3mm Just Right surgical sealer is an ideal device for dividing the azygos in this size patient.Open
StatementTo establish extrapleural plane, place heel of right angle on ribs and spread to nicely show the plane, then mobilize pleura posteriorly to expose azygos.Open
StatementMobilizing pleura up around apex of lung is important to allow access for proximal pouch mobilization.Open
StatementDistal esophageal segment is controlled with vessel loop, allowing proximal dissection to identify the fistula site.Open
StatementContrary to standard teaching that distal esophagus should not be mobilized, it can be mobilized extensively especially laterally, all the way to the diaphragm.Open
StatementMedial mobilization of distal esophagus requires more caution due to blood supply concerns.Open
StatementExtensive proximal pouch mobilization provides the most important length gain for anastomosis.Open
StatementFor proximal dissection, blade cautery with light buzz followed by mostly blunt dissection with flat end of blade, staying right on the thickened esophagus, is preferred; better to enter esophagus than trachea high in chest.Open
QuotationI would rather be in the esophagus than be in the trachea up high in the chest.Open
StatementFor large tracheal injury, sleeve resection is possible given tracheal mobility; pericardium or autologous tissue should be interposed between trachea and esophageal repair.Open
Statement5-0 PDS (absorbable monofilament) is the preferred suture for esophageal anastomosis; silk is not favored.Open
StatementMyotomies are not favored because they potentially create even more dysfunctional esophageal segment; motility is already abnormal in esophageal atresia.Open
QuotationI personally am not a big fan of myotomy. I think it potentially creates an even more dysfunctional segment of the esophagus than already exists. The motility is clearly abnormal in patients with oesophageal atresia, and doing a myotomy just makes that problem worse.Open
StatementFor long-gap atresia when ends cannot be brought together, approach is to ligate distal end after dividing fistula, tack both ends on tension to prevertebral fascia, close, allow patient to grow 2-3 weeks, then return for anastomosis.Open
StatementTraction or pressure is a strong stimulus to growth throughout the body including cardiovascular system and lungs.Open
StatementFor thoracoscopic Foker technique, traction sutures are placed in proximal and distal ends, brought out through trocar sites above and below (crossed), tensioned, with return to OR within a week for anastomosis.Open
StatementInternal Foker (tacking ends to prevertebral fascia) is preferred over classic Foker with prolonged paralysis and sequential tensioning.Open
StatementFor thoracoscopic TEF repair, patient is rotated past 90 degrees to allow gravity to move lungs away, with standard port placement: camera center, posterior port inferiorly, anterior port superiorly.Open
Statement3mm instruments are used for thoracoscopic TEF repair.Open
QuotationI'm less worried about them falling off the esophagus than I am having them fall off a blood vessel.Open
StatementThoracoscopic visualization is very helpful for mobilizing the proximal pouch.Open
StatementThe anastomosis is the most difficult part of thoracoscopic TEF repair and requires significant minimally invasive experience.Open
QuotationI think that's one of the challenges with the thoracoscopic repair of a TEF is to actually sew the anastomosis.Open
StatementSimulation courses for thoracoscopic TEF repair will be a great advantage for trainees given the infrequency of these cases.Open
QuotationTo me, the important part, and I beat on our residents about this when they're doing this anastomosis, is you have to be able to see. You want to make sure that you incorporate mucosa on every stitch.Open
StatementEvery stitch must incorporate mucosa, which requires good visualization; the hanging stitch helps visualize lumens of both proximal and distal ends.Open
StatementVentilator management during thoracoscopy depends more on anesthesiologist comfort and attention than ventilator type (oscillator vs. conventional).Open
StatementEndotracheal tube can be positioned to selectively ventilate left lung during thoracoscopy, aided by preoperative bronchoscopy.Open
StatementA little CO2 insufflation with time will collapse the lung as long as anesthesiologist is not fighting with positive pressure; anesthesiologists can get scared by initial shunting but things settle down.Open
StatementEarly extubation is preferred when patient had good lung function preoperatively and operation went smoothly, even potentially in the operating room, to avoid positive pressure on tracheal repair and instead have negative intratracheal pressure with spontaneous breathing.Open
QuotationI'm equally concerned that positive pressure is putting pressure on my tracheal repair, and I would much rather have the patient be breathing spontaneously to have, in fact, the opposite effect of a negative pressure in the trachea.Open
QuotationI do honestly, I'm a little bit old school in that. I still get an esophagram.Open
StatementContrast esophagram is obtained at 5-7 days postoperatively before pulling chest drain.Open
StatementSmall TLS drains are used rather than formal chest tubes, especially for open extrapleural approach.Open
QuotationI do not actually. I again, a practice of mine that has changed based on our results from the Midwest Pediatric Surgical Consortium study in which the patients who Had a trans anastomotic tube had a much higher stricture and leak rate than patients that did not have that.Open
StatementFor stricture on esophagram, dilation is delayed several weeks unless stricture is critically tight, because proximal pouch is always dilated making anastomosis always appear narrowed.Open
QuotationUnless it's an incredibly tight stricture, I would wait several weeks before doing a dilation unless I was worried there was going to be a complete obstruction.Open
StatementIf contrast flows freely down distal esophagus, dilation can be held off several weeks.Open
StatementDilations are performed aggressively, typically waiting one week between dilation and restudy, then potentially dilating again.Open
StatementBalloon (radial) dilation is less traumatic to tissue than bougie dilators and is preferred.Open
StatementIf case goes well and postoperative study looks great, routine follow-up esophagrams are not obtained; patients are studied only if they present with symptoms suggesting stricture.Open
QuotationI would absolutely wait and do nothing. I would leave the drain in and usually that presents with some saliva in the drain, and I would just wait, and the vast majority of those close.Open
StatementFor small anastomotic leak in stable child, conservative management with drain in place is appropriate; vast majority close spontaneously.Open
StatementLeak increases risk of postoperative stricture.Open
StatementIndications for operative intervention for leak are worsening clinical status, wide open leak, or large uncontrolled pneumothorax.Open
StatementRepeat esophagram is typically performed one week after initial leak identification; if small outpouching persists but nothing comes out of tube and contrast doesn't extend further, leak is probably healed and tube can be removed.Open
StatementPediatric surgeons do not do a fantastic job of long-term follow-up with esophageal atresia patients.Open
QuotationI think that first of all I would make the comment that that's a great point and it's interesting to participate in the International oesophageal atresia meeting that occurs every 2 years and to go and see the patients because that meeting is multidisciplinary, including even patients, and you see these patients who come back who are in their 20s or 30s or 40s and they talk about the long term issues that they have and we tend to follow patients until they're, you know, until they're eating well and then they're gone.Open
StatementAt International Esophageal Atresia meetings, patients in their 20s-40s describe long-term issues that surgeons are unaware of because follow-up typically ends at age 18 or when eating well.Open
StatementPatients with recurrent strictures presenting with food bolus obstruction are seen and dilated on an ongoing basis.Open
QuotationThe patients that worry me more honestly are the patients who have ongoing reflux, and we don't know the long term impact of that on things like Barrett's esophagus and Potential long term risk for malignant change and those sorts of things.Open
StatementGreater concern is patients with ongoing reflux; long-term impact on Barrett's esophagus and malignant change risk is unknown.Open
StatementIf stricture has been dilated 2-3 times, next move is to address reflux.Open
StatementMost patients are discharged on anti-reflux medications.Open
QuotationI would argue that virtually all patients have some degree of gastroesophageal reflux.Open
StatementVirtually all esophageal atresia patients have some degree of gastroesophageal reflux.Open
StatementFor stricture not responsive to dilations (dilates easily then restrictures), aggressive approach is fundoplication.Open
StatementDespite poor esophageal motility, Nissen fundoplication is still performed but made loose and short, using 2 or at most 3 stitches for the wrap.Open
StatementFor pure esophageal atresia, approach is G-tube placement with calibration of gap length using distal catheter pushed up distal esophagus and NG tube in proximal esophagus, wait 4-6 weeks, and attempt primary repair once ends are within 2 vertebral bodies.Open
Complications and Beyond
StatementBaseline chest X-ray may be useful if patient later presents with respiratory symptoms and consolidation, providing comparisonOpen
StatementIf crura come together easily during paraesophageal hernia repair, primary closure without mesh is preferredOpen
StatementPosterior defect is the usual problem site in paraesophageal hernia; mesh should cover the posterior repairOpen
StatementWaiting only 3-4 weeks for revision risks operating during maximal inflammation periodOpen
QuotationI hate this operation, whether it's open or laparoscopic, because you're trying to do a mechanical fix to a physiologic problem, and it's uh miserable.Open
StatementFundoplication attempts mechanical fix for physiologic problem, making it inherently difficult operationOpen
StatementGastric disconnect is excellent operation in cognitively impaired patients who don't eat much and have refractory reflux or multiple failed fundoplicationsOpen
StatementDextrocardia makes thoracoscopic visualization challenging for EA/TEF repairOpen
StatementFor unstable EA/TEF patient, laparotomy with G-tube and vessel loop around GE junction allows fistula control and ventilation, deferring thoracic repair until patient stabilizesOpen
StatementBronchoscopy should be performed in all EA/TEF cases to identify additional fistulasOpen
StatementTracheal reconstruction for esophageal lung can be performed via median sternotomy: divide trachea, repair esophagus posteriorly, reconstruct trachea and fish-mouth abnormal bronchus to create lung connectionOpen
StatementIf initial TEF ligation is performed too far from trachea (2cm), significant esophageal length is lost, potentially preventing primary anastomosisOpen
StatementMagnet anastomosis can be attempted when esophageal ends are tacked together but gap prevents primary anastomosisOpen
StatementTracheal reconstruction for esophageal lung is performed on cardiopulmonary bypassOpen
Tracheoesophageal Fistula with Dr. Daniel von Allmen
QuotationIt certainly is an interest that we have here with a whole group here in Cincinnati, but it can be an incredibly difficult, challenging problem. It's one of the great cases in pediatric surgery and one of the most difficult cases, so it really runs the whole spectrum for sure.Open
StatementCincinnati Children's has a multidisciplinary aerodigestive center including ENT airway surgeons, GI, pulmonary, general surgeons, nurse practitioners, geneticists, and dietitiansOpen
StatementThe aerodigestive center typically receives more complicated patients referred from outside through either esophageal or airway armsOpen
StatementPhysical examination should assess for scaphoid versus full or distended abdomen and respiratory distressOpen
QuotationI personally like to try to pass the NG tube myself, having been burned with NG tubes that wouldn't go down, and the patient was started on treatment as an oesophageal atresia and subsequently found that the NG tube passes just fine.Open
StatementThe surgeon should personally attempt to pass the NG tube rather than relying on nursing reports, as tubes reported as not passing sometimes pass easilyOpen
StatementInjecting air into the NG tube and obtaining a plain film helps visualize proximal pouch distention and assess distal GI gas patternOpen
QuotationIf I can't see a distended proximal pouch, then I worry. I worry that either one of two things either that the diagnosis is incorrect and in fact it is not an esophageal atresia, or that there could be a proximal fistula which is allowing that proximal pouch to decompress.Open
StatementLack of visible distended proximal pouch raises concern for either incorrect diagnosis or presence of proximal fistula allowing pouch decompressionOpen
StatementContrast studies can be performed if there is high suspicion of unusual anatomy, as long as the radiologist knows the esophagus may be obstructedOpen
StatementEchocardiogram is the most important preoperative study to assess cardiac anatomy and rule out right-sided aortic archOpen
QuotationThe most important one prior to taking the patient to the operating room is to get an echocardiogram, and the utility of that is, is obviously to assess the cardiac anatomy, but more as importantly, I would say is to assess to be sure that the patient does not have a right-sided aortic arch.Open
StatementRenal ultrasound and spine evaluation for tethered cord are needed but are elective and not necessary before addressing esophageal atresiaOpen
StatementConventional wisdom is to perform left thoracotomy for right-sided aortic archOpen
StatementLeft thoracotomy for right-sided arch is somewhat more difficult with the heart more in the way and harder proximal pouch mobilizationOpen
StatementIt is possible to complete the repair from the right side if right-sided arch is discovered intraoperatively, though some reports suggest higher incidence of swallowing problemsOpen
StatementIn a stable larger baby not intubated, it is reasonable to wait until all resources are available in the middle of the day, even waiting 1-2 daysOpen
StatementShould not wait a long time before repair due to risk of colonizing GI tract and soiling lungsOpen
StatementLarge fistula with distention tends to be a bigger problem in more premature infants with significant lung disease, where poor lung compliance drives air into GI tractOpen
StatementOscillator ventilation does not make a significant difference in managing large fistulas with abdominal distentionOpen
QuotationI've not found personally that an oscillator makes a whole lot of difference. I think if the child has a, has a large fistula, and typically it's actually, I believe this tends to be a bigger problem in younger, that is more premature infants who have more significant lung disease, and their compliance of their lungs is really what drives the The air into the GI tract as opposed to into the lungs.Open
StatementTreating with surfactant and improving lung compliance helps as much as changing ventilator typeOpen
QuotationI think this is a difficult clinical scenario, and, and I think one of the risks is to wait too long to make a decision, and I've made that mistake myself, and then it becomes an emergency if you can't ventilate the child.Open
StatementRisk of waiting too long to make a decision in worsening distention can lead to emergency situation where child cannot be ventilatedOpen
StatementBronchoscopic Fogarty balloon placement sounds good but is difficult unless expertise and equipment are immediately availableOpen
StatementG-tube decompression may paradoxically worsen ventilation by making stomach lower resistance, allowing more air to go there instead of lungsOpen
StatementFor reasonably stable but worsening distention, would take child urgently to OR for right thoracotomy and fistula ligationOpen
QuotationDecompressing the stomach may just allow that to become, in effect, the even lower resistance and allow more air to go there, making it even more difficult to ventilate. You relieve the abdominal distention, but you don't fix the flow of gas from the Trachea to the GI tract as opposed to from the trachea to the lungs.Open
StatementLaparotomy with vessel loop around esophagogastric junction at hiatus with gentle traction (Rommel tourniquet technique) can temporize severe cases, leaving in place for several days before definitive repairOpen
StatementFor associated duodenal atresia in stable child, would potentially fix duodenal atresia first to avoid fixing esophagus upstream from obstructionOpen
StatementBoth duodenal and esophageal atresia could potentially be fixed at same time if child is old enough and stable enoughOpen
QuotationWe have seen that many times in patients who are referred who've had multiple thoracotomies. Nobody ever did a bronchoscopy and the child actually has a laryngeal cleftOpen
QuotationThat is one of the things that I have changed in my management after coming here and having exposure to the patient population that we see, the complex patients that we see with the esophageal center and the neurodigestive center, and The airway surgeons here have convinced me that it is really important to do a bronchoscopyOpen
StatementVon Allmen changed practice to always perform intraoperative bronchoscopy after exposure to Cincinnati's complex patient populationOpen
StatementBronchoscopy documents fistula location, assesses for proximal fistula, and most importantly rules out laryngeal cleft which is easily missedOpen
StatementMany referred patients with multiple thoracotomies never had bronchoscopy and actually have laryngeal cleftOpen
StatementSecond fistula occurs in approximately 1% of cases and can be very difficult to diagnoseOpen
StatementHigh fistulas can range from trifurcation of carina (suggesting difficulty getting ends together) to very high fistulas potentially approachable through neckOpen
StatementBronchoscopy allows guidance of ET tube placement by anesthesiologist based on fistula locationOpen
StatementFor fistula at carina (trifurcation), ET tube should be placed higher as it cannot pass the fistula; for high fistula, tube should be placed distal to fistula but not into the fistula itselfOpen
StatementExtrapleural approach offers advantage of potentially limiting soilage of pleural space if there is postoperative leakOpen
QuotationI do an extra plural approach and that's the way I was trained. I think it offers the advantage of potentially limiting any soilage of the plural space if there is a leak postoperatively.Open
QuotationI think there's no morbidity associated with that, so dividing the azygus gives you better access. In fact, frequently will guide you to the fistula.Open
StatementDividing azygos has no morbidity, gives better access, and frequently guides to the fistulaOpen
StatementOpen azygos division is done by ligation and division; thoracoscopically can use energy devices or clipsOpen
QuotationIt is amazing what you can divide with the electric cautery, with the hook electric cautery if you just get used to it, and I learned that doing actually robotic Nissans that you can divide the short gastrics in a teenager with the with the hook electric cautery.Open
Statement3mm surgical sealer is ideal device for this size patient and vesselOpen
StatementHook cautery can safely divide vessels if done slowly going up and down to ensure coagulation, learned from robotic Nissen experience dividing short gastricsOpen
StatementImportant to mobilize pleura up around apex of lung to have access for proximal pouch mobilizationOpen
StatementAfter azygos division, identify distal esophagus and control with vessel loop, then dissect proximally to identify fistula siteOpen
StatementSpreading heel of right angle on ribs nicely shows extrapleural plane when going through intercostal musclesOpen
StatementMuscle-sparing thoracotomy can make exposure more difficult; has not seen significant morbidity from standard posterolateral thoracotomyOpen
StatementStandard teaching has been not to mobilize distal esophagus, but can actually mobilize it significantly especially laterally all the way to diaphragmOpen
StatementExtensive proximal pouch mobilization gives the most length to get ends togetherOpen
StatementThoracoscopic approach advantage is clearer visualization for proximal pouch mobilizationOpen
QuotationI think we have learned that, you know, the standard teaching has been that you shouldn't mobilize the distal esophagus at all, and I think we've learned that in fact you can mobilize that segment a fair amount, especially laterally.Open
StatementMust be careful with medial mobilization of distal esophagus due to blood supply concernsOpen
StatementRisk of entering trachea during proximal dissection; must be very careful using blade cautery with light buzz and mostly blunt dissection with flat end of bladeOpen
StatementBetter to be in esophagus than trachea during high chest dissection; esophagus is thickened from obstructionOpen
QuotationI completely agree, and I think that you have to be very careful. I personally like to just use a blade, electric cautery and with a little buzz and then mostly blunt dissection with the flat end of the blade, and I think that. That can help you and staying right on the esophagus, which is usually very thickened because it's an obstructed piece of bowel. I would rather be in the esophagus than be in the trachea up high in the chest.Open
StatementFor significant tracheal defect, could perform sleeve resection as trachea is incredibly mobile, then place pericardium or autologous tissue between trachea and esophageal repairOpen
StatementPersonal preference is 5-0 PDS - absorbable monofilament suture; not a fan of silkOpen
StatementNot a fan of myotomies as they potentially create even more dysfunctional esophageal segment; motility is already clearly abnormal in esophageal atresiaOpen
StatementFor cases too tight for primary repair, would ligate ends, tack both on tension to prevertebral fascia, close, let patient grow for couple weeks, then return to put togetherOpen
QuotationI personally am not a big fan of myotomy. I think it. Potentially creates an even more dysfunctional segment of the esophagus than already exists. The motility is clearly abnormal in patients with oesophageal atresia, and doing a myotomy just makes that problem worse.Open
QuotationI believe very firmly in the physiology of traction or pressure. Actually it's sort of the reverse, is a very strong stimulus to growth all over the place in the cardiovascular system in the lungsOpen
StatementTraction or pressure is very strong stimulus to growth throughout cardiovascular system and lungsOpen
StatementWould not do classic Foker technique with prolonged paralysis and sequential suture tensioningOpen
StatementFor thoracoscopic approach, can place traction sutures in proximal and distal ends brought out through crossed trocar sites with tension, allowing return within a week for anastomosisOpen
StatementFoker technique requires patients intubated and paralyzed spending weeks in ICU, which is probably worth it if you get good resultOpen
StatementRusty Jennings and Foker published series in JPS showing 98% success getting ends together in primary atresia versus only 67% in secondary approaches after previous surgeriesOpen
QuotationThey published a series a year ago or so in JPS looking at their results, and, and it was a very carefully well documented report of their results, and the data are striking if you Have a patient who has a primary atresia that you address, then in 98% of patients they're able to get the two ends of the esophagus together. In contrast, if it's a patient who's had previous surgeries and it's a secondary approach, then only 2/3 of those patients ever get the esophagus together.Open
StatementStandard port placement: camera in center, posterior port inferiorly, anterior port superiorlyOpen
StatementFor thoracoscopic procedure, rotate patient past 90 degrees to allow gravity to move lungs out of wayOpen
StatementUses 3mm instruments for thoracoscopic TEF repairOpen
StatementSewing the anastomosis is one of the challenges with thoracoscopic TEF repair and requires most experience with minimally invasive techniquesOpen
StatementSimulation courses for TEF repair will be great advantage for trainees as these cases are not done often enough to get practiceOpen
QuotationI'm less worried about them falling off the esophagus than I am having them fall off a blood vessel.Open
QuotationI think as with most minimally invasive operations, I think it's important to do the same operation or at least the same quality operation that you would do open and Frankly, I think that's one of the challenges with the thoracoscopic repair of a TEF is to actually sew the anastomosis.Open
StatementThoracoscopic visualization is very helpful for mobilizing proximal pouchOpen
StatementWould use clips for dividing fistula thoracoscopically, less worried about them falling off esophagus than blood vesselOpen
StatementImportant to do same quality operation thoracoscopically as would do openOpen
StatementThoracoscopic ventilation management depends more on anesthesiologist than ventilator type; need anesthesiologist comfortable with procedure who pays attention during operationOpen
QuotationI think it's more dependent on the anesthesiologist than it is on the type of ventilator, and you have to have an anesthesiologist who's comfortable with doing this and understands what you're trying to accomplish and is paying attention while you're actually doing the operation because they can either help you a lot or hurt you a lot with how they ventilate the child.Open
StatementAnesthesiologists can get scared seeing initial shunting but things settle down if they waitOpen
StatementLittle CO2 insufflation with some time will collapse lung as long as anesthesiologist isn't fighting with positive pressureOpen
StatementConcern about reintubation exists, but equally concerned that positive pressure puts pressure on tracheal repairOpen
StatementIf patient had good lung function preoperatively and operation went smoothly, advocate extubating as soon as possible, even conceivably in operating roomOpen
StatementPrefer spontaneous breathing with negative pressure in trachea rather than positive pressureOpen
QuotationI agree it is a concern that the patient may require reintubation. However, I'm equally concerned that positive pressure is putting pressure on my tracheal repair, and I would much rather have the patient be breathing spontaneously to have, in fact, the opposite effect of a negative pressure in the trachea.Open
StatementGets contrast study at 5-7 days before pulling chest drain, timing depends on avoiding weekendsOpen
QuotationI do honestly, I'm a little bit old school in that. I still get an esophagram. I usually wait for about 5 days.Open
StatementUses small TLS drain rather than formal chest tube, especially for open extrapleural approachOpen
StatementDoes not use transanastomotic tube based on Midwest Pediatric Surgical Consortium study showing much higher stricture and leak rate with transanastomotic tubesOpen
QuotationI do not actually. I again, a practice of mine that has changed based on our results from the Midwest Pediatric Surgical Consortium study in which the patients who Had a trans anastomotic tube had a much higher stricture and leak rate than patients that did not have that.Open
StatementMidwest consortium study was presented at APSA and should be published in JPS soonOpen
QuotationUnless it's an incredibly tight stricture, I would wait several weeks before doing a dilation unless I was worried there was going to be a complete obstruction.Open
StatementUnless incredibly tight stricture risking complete obstruction, would wait several weeks before first dilationOpen
StatementAlways appears to be narrowing at anastomosis because proximal pouch is dilated; as long as patent with free contrast flow distally, would hold off on dilationOpen
QuotationThere's always reported a narrowing because the proximal pouch is always dilated, so it always looks like there's a narrowing at the anastomosis. As long as it's patent and contrast flows freely down the distal esophagus, I would hold off on. Uh, dialing it, dilating it probably several weeks if possible.Open
StatementHuge spectrum from very tight strictures requiring many dilations to kids fine after one dilationOpen
StatementIf case goes well and post-op study looks great, does not get routine follow-up esophagrams; studies based on clinical symptoms suggesting strictureOpen
QuotationI think that again, having trained using bougie dilators, a balloon or radial dilation is, is less traumatic for the tissueOpen
StatementDilations done with GI colleagues in aerodigestive center for bigger kids or with interventional radiologistsOpen
StatementBalloon or radial dilation is less traumatic for tissue than bougie dilatorsOpen
QuotationI would absolutely wait and do nothing. I would leave the drain in and usually that presents with some saliva in the drain, and I would just wait, and the vast majority of those close.Open
StatementFor small leak with child not sick, would absolutely wait and do nothing, leaving drain in; vast majority closeOpen
StatementWould only go to OR for leak if child getting sicker, wide open leak, or large uncontrollable pneumothoraxOpen
StatementEven reasonably significant leaks will heal, then can deal with stricture postoperativelyOpen
StatementSometimes little outpouching where leak happened makes it unclear if still leaking; if nothing from tube and nothing goes further, leak probably healed and would remove tubeOpen
StatementUsually waits one week between esophagrams for leak; if child continues to do well, restudiesOpen
QuotationI think that first of all I would make the comment that that's a great point and it's interesting to participate in the International oesophageal atresia. A meeting that occurs every 2 years and to go and see the patients because that meeting is multidisciplinary, including even patients, and you see these patients who come back who are in their 20s or 30s or 40s and they talk about the long term issues that they have and we tend to follow patients until they're, you know, until they're eating well and then they're goneOpen
StatementInternational esophageal atresia meeting occurs every 2 years and is multidisciplinary including patientsOpen
StatementPatients in their 20s-40s at international meeting discuss long-term issues; surgeons tend to follow until eating well or age 18 then never see them againOpen
StatementHave a lot to learn about long-term complications; personally follows patients for at least couple years which is probably not long enoughOpen
StatementMore concerning are patients with ongoing reflux due to unknown long-term impact on Barrett's esophagus and potential malignant changeOpen
QuotationThe patients that worry me more honestly are the patients who have ongoing reflux, and we don't know the long term impact of that on things like Barrett's esophagus and Potential long term risk for malignant change and those sorts of things.Open
StatementBiggest challenges in long-term follow-up are reflux and recurrent stricturesOpen
QuotationIf I have a patient who has a stricture that's been dilated 2 or 3 times, my next move would be to address reflux. Most of the patients we leave on anti-reflux medications when they are discharged from the hospital. I would argue that virtually all patients have some degree of gastroesophageal reflux. If they have a stricture that is not responsive to dilations, it dilates easily and then restrictures. I personally am very aggressive about doing a fundoplication on those patientsOpen
StatementIf patient has stricture dilated 2-3 times, next move would be to address refluxOpen
StatementMost patients left on anti-reflux medications when discharged from hospitalOpen
StatementVery aggressive about fundoplication for strictures not responsive to dilations (dilates easily then restrictures)Open
StatementVirtually all patients have some degree of gastroesophageal refluxOpen
StatementWould wait 4-6 weeks to see how close ends come together, then attempt primary repair once within 2 vertebral bodiesOpen
StatementFor pure esophageal atresia, approach is G-tube placement with calibration of gap length using distal catheter pushed up and NG tube in proximal pouchOpen
QuotationI do, but as with most Nissans, I make them loose and I make them short, so I usually use two or at most 3 stitches for the wrap and make sure that it is loose around the distal esophagus.Open
StatementDoes Nissen fundoplication in patients with poor esophageal motility but makes them loose and short, using 2 or at most 3 stitchesOpen
Esophageal Replacement with Dr. Dan von Allmen
QuotationWe have a tendency to say TEF when we mean esophageal atresia, so just be very careful when you're talking about these things that you're clear about what you're talking about, because when you say, oh, the patient had a TEF when really. They had is a pure esophageal atresia. That's just not correct.Open
StatementEsophageal atresia incidence is 1 in 4500 in the United States with slight male predominanceOpen
StatementRecurrence risk of esophageal atresia among parents who have one affected child is 0.5 to 2%Open
StatementPrenatal ultrasound detects only about half of esophageal atresia cases, primarily detecting pure atresia due to significant proximal pouch dilationOpen
StatementThe most common type of esophageal atresia is proximal atresia with distal fistulaOpen
StatementVACTERL is an association, not a syndrome, requiring 3 of the defects for diagnosisOpen
StatementEsophageal atresia associated with significant cardiac anomalies and low birth weight has only 27 to 30% survival rateOpen
StatementG-tube decompression or needle decompression helps temporarily but air still follows the low resistance pathway out of the G-tube instead of going into the lungsOpen
StatementIn type C fistula with respiratory distress, air continuously goes into the intestine via the low resistance pathway instead of into the lungs, causing increased stomach size and affecting respiratory complianceOpen
StatementPutting vessel loop around distal esophagus is easier than dividing the fistula when in trouble during surgeryOpen
StatementEvery child with tracheoesophageal fistula or esophageal atresia needs bronchoscopy due to 10-15% association of airway issues and to help plan surgeryOpen
QuotationWe believe quite strongly that every child with a tracheoesophageal fistula or esophageal atresia needs a bronchoscopy.Open
StatementVirtually all kids with esophageal atresia have some element of tracheomalacia, though clinical significance variesOpen
QuotationI personally believe that there is some Growth in the esophagus and typically our approach is to wait several weeks. I think once you get past probably 4 to 6 weeks, there's not going to be any more growth.Open
StatementThere is growth in the esophagus over time, but once past 4 to 6 weeks there is not going to be any more growthOpen
StatementFor significant gap, approach is to support child with enteral bolus feedings to put stretch on the distal esophagus and get sequential gap studies, then take to OR at 6 weeksOpen
StatementFor thoracoscopy, patient positioning should be almost 45 degrees from prone, pushed to one side of bed, with camera port looking straight down at esophagus providing better visualization than open surgeryOpen
StatementThe azygos vein guides to the level of the fistula because the fistula typically occurs right about the level of the azygos veinOpen
StatementWhen placing clip on fistula, it must be flush with the trachea to avoid leaving a long pouch that can pool secretions and cause problemsOpen
StatementAnesthesiologist needs to push down repeatedly to help find the proximal pouch during surgeryOpen
StatementIf CO2 skyrockets on ET tube during thoracoscopy, this indicates a hole in the trachea as CO2 from thoracoscopy goes up the trachea and out the endotracheal tubeOpen
QuotationYou would much rather put a hole in the esophageal pouch than in the trachea.Open
StatementIt is safer to put a hole in the esophageal pouch than in the trachea during dissectionOpen
StatementFoker procedure uses traction sutures brought out through chest wall with sequential tightening, as traction is a stimulus for esophageal growthOpen
StatementMost common esophageal replacement is gastric pull-up, but other options include reverse gastric tube, colon interposition, and duodenal interposition, with none being clearly better than othersOpen
StatementSecondary Foker cases spent mean of 110 days in ICU and were paralyzed for more than 1 monthOpen
StatementIn primary Foker cases, esophagus was successfully brought together 96% of the time, versus only 2/3 of the time in secondary cases after previous operationOpen
QuotationI would say that none is any better than the other.Open
StatementPrimary Foker cases spent more than 1 month in ICU on average and were paralyzed for more than 2 weeksOpen
StatementReverse gastric tube is created from greater curve of stomach and requires preserving gastroepiploic artery when placing initial G-tube, but has many problemsOpen
StatementColon interposition advantage is tremendous length, allowing anastomosis to pharynx in caustic ingestion cases with no remaining esophagusOpen
QuotationWe were taught initially that these are hard to revise because you damage the blood supply to the colon, but that's actually not true.Open
StatementColon interposition conduits can be revised despite teaching that revision damages blood supplyOpen
StatementBiggest challenge with colon interposition is that conduits dilate and elongate over time, with food collecting and not emptyingOpen
StatementIn institutional series of first 13 colon interpositions, 12 of 13 patients were NPO at presentation, with no graft loss after initial caseOpen
StatementWhen performing initial repair with field already dissected, placing 3 posterior tracheopexy stitches takes 15 minutes and avoids need to operate through previously operated field laterOpen
StatementPosterior tracheopexy involves putting sutures into membranous trachea to hold it back for tracheomalacia managementOpen
QuotationAs surgeons, we're frequently trained that we need to be the captain of the ship, and it's all about us, and we need to do everything. And one of the best things that happened to me when I came here and started doing these esophageal cases was partnering with our ENT group.Open
Daniel's statements about Etiologies (Gastroschisis/NEC/Atresia/Volvulus)6 statements
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Daniel's statements about Fetal Surgery52 statements
Treatment for Long Gap Esophageal Atresia: Esophageal Elongation and Replacement
StatementAt Cincinnati Children's, if a child has no gas in the abdomen, they place a G-tube and may put something up the distal esophagus for a fluoro shot, then wait a couple of weeks for a protocol gap measurement in interventional radiology.Open
QuotationOur method here is that if we have a child with no gas in the abdomen and we take them to the OR and put a G-tube in, many times we'll do, we'll put something up the distal esophagus at that point and just get a fluoro shot. But then we'd wait a couple of weeks and we have our patients go down to interventional radiology where we have a protocol for measuring the gap.Open
StatementAt Cincinnati Children's, if a child has no gas in the abdomen, they place a G-tube and may put something up the distal esophagus for a fluoro shot, then wait a couple of weeks for a protocol gap measurement in interventional radiology.Open
QuotationOur method here is that if we have a child with no gas in the abdomen and we take them to the OR and put a G-tube in, many times we'll do, we'll put something up the distal esophagus at that point and just get a fluoro shot. But then we'd wait a couple of weeks and we have our patients go down to interventional radiology where we have a protocol for measuring the gap.Open
QuotationThe physiology, which I believe in intensely, is that stretch is a very strong promoter of growth. And then if you put things on tension, they will actually grow over time. That's how the cardiovascular system develops in utero.Open
QuotationBut the philosophy here is that with traction, you can get the two ends of the esophagus to grow. And if you can get them to grow far enough, you can put them together.Open
QuotationBut the philosophy here is that with traction, you can get the two ends of the esophagus to grow. And if you can get them to grow far enough, you can put them together.Open
QuotationThe physiology, which I believe in intensely, is that stretch is a very strong promoter of growth. And then if you put things on tension, they will actually grow over time. That's how the cardiovascular system develops in utero.Open
StatementStretch is a very strong promoter of growth, and if you put things on tension they will actually grow over time, which is how the cardiovascular system develops in utero.Open
StatementThe philosophy of traction-based elongation is that with traction, you can get the two ends of the esophagus to grow, and if you can get them to grow far enough, you can put them together.Open
StatementThe philosophy of traction-based elongation is that with traction, you can get the two ends of the esophagus to grow, and if you can get them to grow far enough, you can put them together.Open
StatementStretch is a very strong promoter of growth, and if you put things on tension they will actually grow over time, which is how the cardiovascular system develops in utero.Open
QuotationObviously, you look at the result of getting the esophagus together and intact esophagus in 96% of patients in the primary group, about two thirds of patients in the secondary group.Open
QuotationAbout two thirds of patients with the primary repair were able to get the full oral nutrition and about 10% of the patients who had the secondary repair.Open
StatementIn the Boston Group 2015 study, the primary group (de novo cases) achieved an intact esophagus in 96% of patients, while the secondary group (patients with previous operations) achieved this in about two thirds of patients.Open
StatementIn the Boston Group 2015 study, the primary group had a median ICU stay of 70 days with a couple of weeks being paralyzed, and the secondary group had a median ICU stay of 110 days with a month of being paralyzed.Open
StatementIn the Boston Group 2015 study, about two thirds of patients with primary repair were able to get full oral nutrition and about 10% of patients who had secondary repair achieved full oral nutrition.Open
QuotationThere was a great article published by the Boston Group 2015. Divides the cases into two groups, a primary group and a secondary group. Secondary being patients who had had operations previously in the primary group, being cases that they saw de novo.Open
QuotationBut these procedures are not without some morbidity. And you look at the ICU stay is a median of 70 days with a couple of weeks being paralyzed for the primary group and 110 days for the secondary group with a month of being paralyzed.Open
QuotationYou divide the esophageal stump at the esophageal hiatus and mobilize the fundus and pull the fundus up and you can pull it up either in the anterior or posterior mediastinum.Open
StatementThe surgical group from INOEA recommends gastric pull up as the first option for esophageal replacement, dividing the esophageal stump at the esophageal hiatus and mobilizing the fundus to pull it up in either the anterior or posterior mediastinum.Open
StatementThe colon can be used as an interposition for esophageal replacement.Open
QuotationYou can actually use the colon as an interposition as well. I personally was trained to do colon interpositions.Open
QuotationYou could use the stomach. That would be called a gastric transposition. The surgical group from the INOEA, their recommendation, the recommendation for the first option is a gastric pull up.Open
QuotationYou can actually use the colon as an interposition as well. I personally was trained to do colon interpositions.Open
StatementThe colon can be used as an interposition for esophageal replacement.Open
StatementCommon problems with colonic interposition are that the colon can dilate and become tortuous, and it's not uncommon to get a sigmoid sink drain deformity just above the diaphragm.Open
QuotationCommon problems with this are that they dilate and they can become tortuous. It's not uncommon to get kind of a sigmoid sink drain deformity just above the diaphragm.Open
StatementCommon problems with colonic interposition are that the colon can dilate and become tortuous, and it's not uncommon to get a sigmoid sink drain deformity just above the diaphragm.Open
QuotationCommon problems with this are that they dilate and they can become tortuous. It's not uncommon to get kind of a sigmoid sink drain deformity just above the diaphragm.Open
QuotationSo I wouldn't pretend to say that these don't need to be revised sometimes, but it is not impossible to revise them and the kids tend to do pretty well.Open
QuotationI was taught initially that you can't fix that and that it's too dangerous and that you'll risk the blood supply to the colon interposition. But I found that actually that's not really true.Open
QuotationI pass the interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine. And you can mobilize the colon. You can divide the gastric dual aporotomy, divide the colon attachment to the stomach, and then mobilize that sigmoid redundancy transhiatally, and then reinestimose the colon to the stomach.Open
StatementVon Allman was initially taught that sigmoid redundancy in colonic interposition can't be fixed and that it's too dangerous because it will risk the blood supply, but he found that this is not really true.Open
StatementVon Allman passes the colonic interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine, allowing mobilization of the colon by dividing the gastric duodenotomy and colon attachment to the stomach, then mobilizing the sigmoid redundancy transhiatally and reanastomosing the colon to the stomach.Open
StatementVon Allman was initially taught that sigmoid redundancy in colonic interposition can't be fixed and that it's too dangerous because it will risk the blood supply, but he found that this is not really true.Open
StatementColonic interpositions sometimes need to be revised, but it is not impossible to revise them and the kids tend to do pretty well.Open
StatementVon Allman passes the colonic interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine, allowing mobilization of the colon by dividing the gastric duodenotomy and colon attachment to the stomach, then mobilizing the sigmoid redundancy transhiatally and reanastomosing the colon to the stomach.Open
StatementColonic interpositions sometimes need to be revised, but it is not impossible to revise them and the kids tend to do pretty well.Open
QuotationI was taught initially that you can't fix that and that it's too dangerous and that you'll risk the blood supply to the colon interposition. But I found that actually that's not really true.Open
QuotationI pass the interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine. And you can mobilize the colon. You can divide the gastric dual aporotomy, divide the colon attachment to the stomach, and then mobilize that sigmoid redundancy transhiatally, and then reinestimose the colon to the stomach.Open
QuotationSo I wouldn't pretend to say that these don't need to be revised sometimes, but it is not impossible to revise them and the kids tend to do pretty well.Open
QuotationYou can get extraordinary length on this. And Mike and I have done a few cases for kids who had disasters, multiple operations elsewhere, who had caustic injuries that were involved all the way up to the pharynx, where we had to do a lot of work just on the pharynx to get that open, and then literally sew the colon interposition to the pharynx and then down to the stomach, which is obviously tough to do with a gastric pull-up.Open
StatementYou can get extraordinary length with colonic interposition, allowing treatment of cases with caustic injuries extending to the pharynx by sewing the colon to the pharynx and down to the stomach, which is tough to do with a gastric pull-up.Open
QuotationYou can get extraordinary length on this. And Mike and I have done a few cases for kids who had disasters, multiple operations elsewhere, who had caustic injuries that were involved all the way up to the pharynx, where we had to do a lot of work just on the pharynx to get that open, and then literally sew the colon interposition to the pharynx and then down to the stomach, which is obviously tough to do with a gastric pull-up.Open
StatementYou can get extraordinary length with colonic interposition, allowing treatment of cases with caustic injuries extending to the pharynx by sewing the colon to the pharynx and down to the stomach, which is tough to do with a gastric pull-up.Open
QuotationI don't think we know we should do the studies to understand that. But I would say that this gets back to David van der Zee's comment about, go have a cup of coffee and come back and it'll be fine. Clearly, that's not growth, that's stretch.Open
StatementVon Allman states we don't know whether esophageal elongation is growth or stretch and should do studies to understand that, but notes that tension is a very good physiologic growth promoter in other organs, making this an area ripe for more basic science.Open
QuotationAnd yet there's very good physiologic data that tension is a growth promoter, not necessarily in the esophagus, but in other organs. So I think that it's an area ripe for a little more basic science.Open
QuotationI don't think we know we should do the studies to understand that. But I would say that this gets back to David van der Zee's comment about, go have a cup of coffee and come back and it'll be fine. Clearly, that's not growth, that's stretch.Open
StatementVon Allman states we don't know whether esophageal elongation is growth or stretch and should do studies to understand that, but notes that tension is a very good physiologic growth promoter in other organs, making this an area ripe for more basic science.Open
QuotationAnd yet there's very good physiologic data that tension is a growth promoter, not necessarily in the esophagus, but in other organs. So I think that it's an area ripe for a little more basic science.Open
Daniel's statements about Gastroesophageal Reflux7 statements
QuotationDo they have data to support that statement, the significant morbidity?Open
StatementImmediate morbidity and mortality of laparoscopic fundoplication, even in infants, is very low and it is a safe operationOpen
QuotationThere's lots of articles that many in this room have authored that show that the immediate morbidity and mortality of a fundoplication, of a laparoscopic fundoplication, even in infants is very low. It's a safe operation.Open
QuotationDo PPIs stop vomiting? No. I, I never understood that acid reflux less acidic, right?Open
StatementPPIs do not stop vomiting; they make refluxed material less acidicOpen
QuotationI started doing is I put an NG tube down, and if they do well with an NG tube, I just do a G tube. If they don't, I do a Nissan. That's as simple as I make it.Open
StatementTrial of bolus NG tube feeding predicts whether infant needs fundoplication: if they do well with NG tube, perform G-tube alone; if they don't, perform NissenOpen
Daniel's statements about Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease7 statements
QuotationDo they have data to support that statement, the significant morbidity?Open
StatementImmediate morbidity and mortality of laparoscopic fundoplication, even in infants, is very low and it is a safe operationOpen
QuotationThere's lots of articles that many in this room have authored that show that the immediate morbidity and mortality of a fundoplication, of a laparoscopic fundoplication, even in infants is very low. It's a safe operation.Open
StatementPPIs do not stop vomiting; they make refluxed material less acidicOpen
QuotationDo PPIs stop vomiting? No. I, I never understood that acid reflux less acidic, right?Open
QuotationI started doing is I put an NG tube down, and if they do well with an NG tube, I just do a G tube. If they don't, I do a Nissan. That's as simple as I make it.Open
StatementTrial of bolus NG tube feeding predicts whether infant needs fundoplication: if they do well with NG tube, perform G-tube alone; if they don't, perform NissenOpen
Daniel's statements about High-risk Neuroblastoma14 statements
QuotationI think that the, the main controversy, at least from my perspective, that still persists is what to do with the high-risk patients.Open
StatementSurvival rate for high-risk neuroblastoma patients is in the 38 to 40% rangeOpen
QuotationThe difference between what a surgeon says they did in the operating room and and what the postoperative imaging says they did in the operating room, and those are not necessarily the same.Open
StatementSurgeon-reported degree of resection showed only 66% concordance with radiologist assessment of postoperative imaging in tandem transplant pilot studyOpen
StatementRepeat study in recent COG high-risk trial showed same 66% concordance rate between surgeon op notes and postoperative imaging, with surgeons underestimating and radiologists overcalling resection completenessOpen
QuotationWe don't have a very good definition of what is a greater than 90% resection.Open
QuotationThe more chemotherapy you give or other agents, and now things like MIBG, which is local radiation, um. Uh, that you actually make the tumor more fibrotic, and it makes that technique of getting down on the vessels and splitting it off much more difficult.Open
StatementMore chemotherapy or other agents like MIBG may make tumor more fibrotic and make subadventitial dissection more difficultOpen
StatementComplication rate for aggressive neuroblastoma resection is approximately 30% morbidity with mortality less than 1%Open
StatementHigh-risk neuroblastoma treatment includes tandem peripheral blood stem cell transplants, with second transplant given as soon as patient recovers from first, followed by immunotherapy and Retin-AOpen
QuotationThis is very important to support the aggressive approach that everybody in this room has suggested that they would, uh, that they would pursue. There actually now is some data to support that.Open
StatementCOG 3973 study's inability to demonstrate overall survival benefit may be type 2 error due to smaller sample size (230 vs 1,300 patients in European study)Open
QuotationIf you're not comfortable taking care of them, you should send them to somebody that is.Open
StatementImmunotherapy is effective in neuroblastoma in the setting of minimal residual diseaseOpen
Daniel's statements about Intestinal Failure12 statements
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Daniel's statements about Intestinal Rehab12 statements
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Daniel's statements about Intestinal Transplant6 statements
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
QuotationI personally used to use them in my practice, but based on this study have stopped using them.Open
StatementDr. von Almen personally used steroids after Kasai in the past but has stopped based on the START trial results.Open
QuotationThe whole point of this is to preserve the native liver.Open
StatementTwo proposed mechanisms for steroid benefit in biliary atresia: reducing ongoing inflammation to preserve ductules, and acting as a choleretic to maintain bile flow (analogous to diuresis after kidney transplant).Open
QuotationI think that you have to always be careful about generalizing studies, and in this study it is specifically testing a fairly long course, 1413 week course of high dose steroids.Open
StatementThe START trial specifically tested a 13-week course of high-dose steroids; the lack of benefit applies to that regimen.Open
Daniel's statements about Long-gap Esophageal Atresia21 statements
Treatment for Long Gap Esophageal Atresia: Esophageal Elongation and Replacement
StatementAt Cincinnati Children's, if a child has no gas in the abdomen, they place a G-tube and may put something up the distal esophagus for a fluoro shot, then wait a couple of weeks for a protocol gap measurement in interventional radiology.Open
QuotationOur method here is that if we have a child with no gas in the abdomen and we take them to the OR and put a G-tube in, many times we'll do, we'll put something up the distal esophagus at that point and just get a fluoro shot. But then we'd wait a couple of weeks and we have our patients go down to interventional radiology where we have a protocol for measuring the gap.Open
StatementThe philosophy of traction-based elongation is that with traction, you can get the two ends of the esophagus to grow, and if you can get them to grow far enough, you can put them together.Open
StatementStretch is a very strong promoter of growth, and if you put things on tension they will actually grow over time, which is how the cardiovascular system develops in utero.Open
QuotationThe physiology, which I believe in intensely, is that stretch is a very strong promoter of growth. And then if you put things on tension, they will actually grow over time. That's how the cardiovascular system develops in utero.Open
QuotationBut the philosophy here is that with traction, you can get the two ends of the esophagus to grow. And if you can get them to grow far enough, you can put them together.Open
QuotationYou can actually use the colon as an interposition as well. I personally was trained to do colon interpositions.Open
StatementThe colon can be used as an interposition for esophageal replacement.Open
QuotationCommon problems with this are that they dilate and they can become tortuous. It's not uncommon to get kind of a sigmoid sink drain deformity just above the diaphragm.Open
StatementCommon problems with colonic interposition are that the colon can dilate and become tortuous, and it's not uncommon to get a sigmoid sink drain deformity just above the diaphragm.Open
QuotationSo I wouldn't pretend to say that these don't need to be revised sometimes, but it is not impossible to revise them and the kids tend to do pretty well.Open
StatementColonic interpositions sometimes need to be revised, but it is not impossible to revise them and the kids tend to do pretty well.Open
StatementVon Allman was initially taught that sigmoid redundancy in colonic interposition can't be fixed and that it's too dangerous because it will risk the blood supply, but he found that this is not really true.Open
StatementVon Allman passes the colonic interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine, allowing mobilization of the colon by dividing the gastric duodenotomy and colon attachment to the stomach, then mobilizing the sigmoid redundancy transhiatally and reanastomosing the colon to the stomach.Open
QuotationI was taught initially that you can't fix that and that it's too dangerous and that you'll risk the blood supply to the colon interposition. But I found that actually that's not really true.Open
QuotationI pass the interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine. And you can mobilize the colon. You can divide the gastric dual aporotomy, divide the colon attachment to the stomach, and then mobilize that sigmoid redundancy transhiatally, and then reinestimose the colon to the stomach.Open
StatementYou can get extraordinary length with colonic interposition, allowing treatment of cases with caustic injuries extending to the pharynx by sewing the colon to the pharynx and down to the stomach, which is tough to do with a gastric pull-up.Open
QuotationYou can get extraordinary length on this. And Mike and I have done a few cases for kids who had disasters, multiple operations elsewhere, who had caustic injuries that were involved all the way up to the pharynx, where we had to do a lot of work just on the pharynx to get that open, and then literally sew the colon interposition to the pharynx and then down to the stomach, which is obviously tough to do with a gastric pull-up.Open
QuotationAnd yet there's very good physiologic data that tension is a growth promoter, not necessarily in the esophagus, but in other organs. So I think that it's an area ripe for a little more basic science.Open
QuotationI don't think we know we should do the studies to understand that. But I would say that this gets back to David van der Zee's comment about, go have a cup of coffee and come back and it'll be fine. Clearly, that's not growth, that's stretch.Open
StatementVon Allman states we don't know whether esophageal elongation is growth or stretch and should do studies to understand that, but notes that tension is a very good physiologic growth promoter in other organs, making this an area ripe for more basic science.Open
Daniel's statements about Metastatic Disease37 statements
StatementIn younger patients, neuroblastoma is often picked up either prenatally on ultrasound, or in younger kids (two-year-old or three-year-old) as a solid abdominal mass.Open
StatementWhen neuroblastoma patients have metastatic disease, they may present with either bony pain or potentially neurologic symptoms from cord compression.Open
QuotationSo in the younger patients, they're oftentimes picked up either prenatally on ultrasound, or in younger kids, say two-year-old or three-year-old, it might be picked up as a solid abdominal mass.Open
StatementWhen considering neuroblastoma as part of the differential diagnosis, it is important to get catecholamines (either urine or serum) as one of the most diagnostic laboratory tests for this tumor.Open
StatementIf imaging suggests neuroblastoma (central abdominal mass or adrenal mass rather than kidney mass), the next test would be a nuclear medicine study, typically an MIBG study.Open
StatementThe MIBG study is helpful for confirming the diagnosis of neuroblastoma and can also demonstrate metastatic disease.Open
StatementMost children with suspected neuroblastoma would get a cross-sectional imaging study, either a CT scan or an MRI.Open
StatementAbout 10% of neuroblastomas are MIBG negative.Open
QuotationAbout 10% of neuroblastomas are MIBG negative.Open
StatementSome centers, including Cincinnati Children's Hospital, would get a PET scan looking for tumor uptake as well as potential metastatic disease.Open
StatementBased on the most recent iteration of the neuroblastoma staging system (INRGSS), it is possible to assign a stage before any invasive procedure is performed.Open
StatementThere is a special category MS for children less than 18 months of age who have metastases to either the bone marrow or the skin.Open
StatementIn the INRGSS system, tumors that are localized are categorized as L1; if localized but have image-defined risk factors (encasing nerves or vessels), they are L2; if they have metastatic disease, they are M.Open
StatementThe INRGSS pre-biopsy staging system was specifically created to allow studies from different centers in different countries to be compared based on the pre-surgical staging of the patient.Open
StatementThe prior neuroblastoma staging system required tissue diagnosis before assigning a stage.Open
StatementSome surgeons would approach resection of a localized neuroblastoma with laparoscopy depending on the size of the tumor.Open
StatementA child with an adrenal mass on the right side and a positive MIBG scan but no evidence of metastases could potentially be treated with a primary resection of the mass via laparotomy.Open
StatementFor very large masses that encase the aorta, cava, or other major vasculature, all you really want is tissue for diagnosis, which can be obtained through open biopsy, laparoscopic biopsy, or core needle biopsies done by an interventional radiologist.Open
StatementIn addition to NMIC status, you want to look for 1P and 11Q deletions and Shimada histology in neuroblastoma biopsy tissue.Open
StatementThe most important biologic risk determinant to obtain from neuroblastoma biopsy tissue is the NMIC status.Open
StatementNeuroblastoma risk is divided about 50-50 between the low risk categories and the high risk category, with a smaller percentage being intermediate risk.Open
StatementBiologic risk determinants from biopsy will tell you what risk category the patient falls into: very low risk, low risk, intermediate risk, or high risk.Open
StatementPatients with high risk neuroblastoma receive aggressive chemotherapy including peripheral stem cell transplant times 2, aggressive surgery with the goal of greater than 90% resection of the tumor, followed by radiation, immunotherapy after chemotherapy, and potentially retinoic acid therapy.Open
QuotationNMIC and age greater than 18 months are the most important prognostic determinants for neuroblastoma.Open
StatementNMIC amplification and age greater than 18 months are the most important prognostic determinants for neuroblastoma.Open
StatementFor intermediate risk neuroblastoma, the goal at the time of debulking or resecting the primary tumor is to achieve at least a 50% response from the initial volume of the primary tumor through the combination of neoadjuvant chemotherapy and surgical resection.Open
StatementIntermediate risk neuroblastoma tumors get varying cycles of chemotherapy based on the biologic risk factors they have.Open
StatementThe low risk neuroblastoma group, depending on the actual age of the patient and how it is diagnosed, could potentially be followed simply with observation.Open
StatementJed Nocturne led a study through the Children's Oncology Group looking at patients less than six months of age with either a prenatally diagnosed or shortly postnatally diagnosed localized mass, showing these patients can be observed with the expectation that the vast majority will avoid any type of surgical procedure.Open
QuotationMS disease is specifically for patients who have a primary site with metastatic disease to the liver, the skin, or the bone marrow, specifically not bone, not cortical bone, and is less than 18 months of age.Open
StatementIf MS disease patients progress or develop respiratory issues because of an enlarging liver mass, treatment might be elected because of the complication of the size of the tumor, but the tumor itself usually does not have to be treated.Open
StatementIn patients with MS disease, simple observation can be the treatment path.Open
StatementMS disease is specifically for patients who have a primary site with metastatic disease to the liver, the skin, or the bone marrow (specifically not bone, not cortical bone) and is less than 18 months of age.Open
StatementIf the metastatic disease is progressing on neoadjuvant chemotherapy, then surgery is not indicated.Open
StatementIf the tumor and metastatic disease are responding to neoadjuvant chemotherapy, one would attack the primary tumor site with a resection, with many advocating for attempting a greater than 90% resection.Open
StatementPatients with metastatic neuroblastoma typically receive four or five cycles of neoadjuvant chemotherapy and then are reassessed.Open
StatementYou can biopsy the skin lesions in MS disease and that will give you the diagnosis.Open
Daniel's statements about Neuroblastoma114 statements
QuotationI think that the, the main controversy, at least from my perspective, that still persists is what to do with the high-risk patients.Open
QuotationI think that the, the main controversy, at least from my perspective, that still persists is what to do with the high-risk patients.Open
StatementSurvival rate for high-risk neuroblastoma patients is in the 38 to 40% rangeOpen
StatementSurvival rate for high-risk neuroblastoma patients is in the 38 to 40% rangeOpen
QuotationThe difference between what a surgeon says they did in the operating room and and what the postoperative imaging says they did in the operating room, and those are not necessarily the same.Open
QuotationThe difference between what a surgeon says they did in the operating room and and what the postoperative imaging says they did in the operating room, and those are not necessarily the same.Open
StatementSurgeon-reported degree of resection showed only 66% concordance with radiologist assessment of postoperative imaging in tandem transplant pilot studyOpen
StatementSurgeon-reported degree of resection showed only 66% concordance with radiologist assessment of postoperative imaging in tandem transplant pilot studyOpen
StatementRepeat study in recent COG high-risk trial showed same 66% concordance rate between surgeon op notes and postoperative imaging, with surgeons underestimating and radiologists overcalling resection completenessOpen
StatementRepeat study in recent COG high-risk trial showed same 66% concordance rate between surgeon op notes and postoperative imaging, with surgeons underestimating and radiologists overcalling resection completenessOpen
QuotationWe don't have a very good definition of what is a greater than 90% resection.Open
QuotationWe don't have a very good definition of what is a greater than 90% resection.Open
StatementMemorial Sloan Kettering data suggests biggest volume response of neuroblastoma tumor occurs with first two cycles of chemotherapy, with very little response after thatOpen
QuotationThe more chemotherapy you give or other agents, and now things like MIBG, which is local radiation, um. Uh, that you actually make the tumor more fibrotic, and it makes that technique of getting down on the vessels and splitting it off much more difficult.Open
QuotationThe more chemotherapy you give or other agents, and now things like MIBG, which is local radiation, um. Uh, that you actually make the tumor more fibrotic, and it makes that technique of getting down on the vessels and splitting it off much more difficult.Open
StatementMore chemotherapy or other agents like MIBG may make tumor more fibrotic and make subadventitial dissection more difficultOpen
StatementMore chemotherapy or other agents like MIBG may make tumor more fibrotic and make subadventitial dissection more difficultOpen
StatementComplication rate for aggressive neuroblastoma resection is approximately 30% morbidity with mortality less than 1%Open
StatementComplication rate for aggressive neuroblastoma resection is approximately 30% morbidity with mortality less than 1%Open
StatementHigh-risk neuroblastoma treatment includes tandem peripheral blood stem cell transplants, with second transplant given as soon as patient recovers from first, followed by immunotherapy and Retin-AOpen
StatementHigh-risk neuroblastoma treatment includes tandem peripheral blood stem cell transplants, with second transplant given as soon as patient recovers from first, followed by immunotherapy and Retin-AOpen
StatementGerman study of 278 stage 4 high-risk neuroblastoma patients achieved complete resection in almost half and >90% resection in another quarter (75% total with >90% resection)Open
StatementGerman study showed overall survival 45%, event-free survival 33%, and local progression-free survival 58% in stage 4 neuroblastomaOpen
StatementGerman study showed no difference in overall survival, event-free survival, or local progression-free survival based on completeness of resection in stage 4 neuroblastomaOpen
StatementGerman study concluded aggressive surgery is not justified in stage 4 neuroblastoma, that limited operations decrease complications, and there is limited impact on patient outcomeOpen
StatementEuropean study included 1,324 high-risk neuroblastoma patients (stages 2, 3, and 4) and achieved 76% with >95% resectionOpen
StatementEuropean neuroblastoma study showed 0.5% mortality and 10% morbidity (30% including lesser complications)Open
StatementEuropean study showed significant improvement in event-free survival and overall survival with aggressive resection in high-risk neuroblastoma - first study to show overall survival benefitOpen
QuotationThis is very important to support the aggressive approach that everybody in this room has suggested that they would, uh, that they would pursue. There actually now is some data to support that.Open
QuotationThis is very important to support the aggressive approach that everybody in this room has suggested that they would, uh, that they would pursue. There actually now is some data to support that.Open
StatementEuropean study concluded >95% resection results in improvement in event-free survival in high-risk neuroblastomaOpen
StatementCOG 3973 study of approximately 230 high-risk neuroblastoma patients showed significant improvement in local relapse-free survival and event-free survival but not overall survivalOpen
StatementCOG 3973 study's inability to demonstrate overall survival benefit may be type 2 error due to smaller sample size (230 vs 1,300 patients in European study)Open
StatementCOG 3973 study's inability to demonstrate overall survival benefit may be type 2 error due to smaller sample size (230 vs 1,300 patients in European study)Open
QuotationIf you're not comfortable taking care of them, you should send them to somebody that is.Open
QuotationIf you're not comfortable taking care of them, you should send them to somebody that is.Open
StatementEuropean neuroblastoma procedures are performed in more than 200 hospitals yet still demonstrated survival improvementsOpen
StatementOlder data shows worse survival in neuroblastoma when kidney is removed, likely because single kidney limits chemotherapy dosingOpen
QuotationIf you can't be informed, be opinionatedOpen
StatementImmunotherapy is effective in neuroblastoma in the setting of minimal residual diseaseOpen
StatementImmunotherapy is effective in neuroblastoma in the setting of minimal residual diseaseOpen
Neuroblastoma
StatementOther differential diagnoses for suprarenal mass include neuroblastoma, pulmonary sequestration below the diaphragm, and misdiagnosed renal anomalyOpen
StatementAdrenal hemorrhage is the most common differential diagnosis for prenatal suprarenal mass, more common with history of fetal stressOpen
StatementMIBG scan is the next step if catecholamines are elevatedOpen
StatementRadiologists are quite good at identifying adrenal hemorrhage on ultrasoundOpen
StatementIn perinatal phase, most common metastatic sites are liver, bone, skin, and lymph nodesOpen
StatementNocktern study data supports observation of prenatal neuroblastoma with careful ultrasound surveillanceOpen
StatementCase report: child with observed prenatal adrenal mass that resolved presented at age 3 with widely metastatic high-risk neuroblastomaOpen
QuotationThe only caution I would raise is that we had a case of a child who presented with exactly this scenario, was observed, the adrenal mass went away and age at age three she presented with widely metastatic high risk neuroblastoma.Open
StatementLymph node status in neuroblastoma is not as important for therapy changes as in Wilms tumorOpen
StatementPrimary concern in stage MS with liver involvement is mass effect causing respiratory compromiseOpen
QuotationThe most common thing that we worry about is is the mass, is the mass effect of the tumor in the liver, which can be really dramatic and causes respiratory compromise.Open
StatementClassic findings of stage MS (high catecholamines, blue blebs on skin, liver metastasis, adrenal mass) may not require biopsyOpen
Statement10% of neuroblastomas are not MIBG avidOpen
StatementPET scan may detect metastases in MIBG-negative neuroblastomasOpen
Topics in 10: Neuroblastoma
StatementIn younger patients, neuroblastoma is often picked up either prenatally on ultrasound, or in younger kids (two-year-old or three-year-old) as a solid abdominal mass.Open
QuotationSo in the younger patients, they're oftentimes picked up either prenatally on ultrasound, or in younger kids, say two-year-old or three-year-old, it might be picked up as a solid abdominal mass.Open
StatementWhen neuroblastoma patients have metastatic disease, they may present with either bony pain or potentially neurologic symptoms from cord compression.Open
StatementWhen considering neuroblastoma as part of the differential diagnosis, it is important to get catecholamines (either urine or serum) as one of the most diagnostic laboratory tests for this tumor.Open
StatementThe MIBG study is helpful for confirming the diagnosis of neuroblastoma and can also demonstrate metastatic disease.Open
StatementMost children with suspected neuroblastoma would get a cross-sectional imaging study, either a CT scan or an MRI.Open
StatementIf imaging suggests neuroblastoma (central abdominal mass or adrenal mass rather than kidney mass), the next test would be a nuclear medicine study, typically an MIBG study.Open
QuotationAbout 10% of neuroblastomas are MIBG negative.Open
StatementSome centers, including Cincinnati Children's Hospital, would get a PET scan looking for tumor uptake as well as potential metastatic disease.Open
StatementAbout 10% of neuroblastomas are MIBG negative.Open
StatementIn the INRGSS system, tumors that are localized are categorized as L1; if localized but have image-defined risk factors (encasing nerves or vessels), they are L2; if they have metastatic disease, they are M.Open
StatementBased on the most recent iteration of the neuroblastoma staging system (INRGSS), it is possible to assign a stage before any invasive procedure is performed.Open
StatementThere is a special category MS for children less than 18 months of age who have metastases to either the bone marrow or the skin.Open
StatementThe prior neuroblastoma staging system required tissue diagnosis before assigning a stage.Open
StatementThe INRGSS pre-biopsy staging system was specifically created to allow studies from different centers in different countries to be compared based on the pre-surgical staging of the patient.Open
StatementA child with an adrenal mass on the right side and a positive MIBG scan but no evidence of metastases could potentially be treated with a primary resection of the mass via laparotomy.Open
StatementSome surgeons would approach resection of a localized neuroblastoma with laparoscopy depending on the size of the tumor.Open
StatementFor very large masses that encase the aorta, cava, or other major vasculature, all you really want is tissue for diagnosis, which can be obtained through open biopsy, laparoscopic biopsy, or core needle biopsies done by an interventional radiologist.Open
StatementThe most important biologic risk determinant to obtain from neuroblastoma biopsy tissue is the NMIC status.Open
StatementIn addition to NMIC status, you want to look for 1P and 11Q deletions and Shimada histology in neuroblastoma biopsy tissue.Open
StatementBiologic risk determinants from biopsy will tell you what risk category the patient falls into: very low risk, low risk, intermediate risk, or high risk.Open
StatementNeuroblastoma risk is divided about 50-50 between the low risk categories and the high risk category, with a smaller percentage being intermediate risk.Open
StatementPatients with high risk neuroblastoma receive aggressive chemotherapy including peripheral stem cell transplant times 2, aggressive surgery with the goal of greater than 90% resection of the tumor, followed by radiation, immunotherapy after chemotherapy, and potentially retinoic acid therapy.Open
QuotationNMIC and age greater than 18 months are the most important prognostic determinants for neuroblastoma.Open
StatementNMIC amplification and age greater than 18 months are the most important prognostic determinants for neuroblastoma.Open
StatementFor intermediate risk neuroblastoma, the goal at the time of debulking or resecting the primary tumor is to achieve at least a 50% response from the initial volume of the primary tumor through the combination of neoadjuvant chemotherapy and surgical resection.Open
StatementIntermediate risk neuroblastoma tumors get varying cycles of chemotherapy based on the biologic risk factors they have.Open
StatementJed Nocturne led a study through the Children's Oncology Group looking at patients less than six months of age with either a prenatally diagnosed or shortly postnatally diagnosed localized mass, showing these patients can be observed with the expectation that the vast majority will avoid any type of surgical procedure.Open
StatementThe low risk neuroblastoma group, depending on the actual age of the patient and how it is diagnosed, could potentially be followed simply with observation.Open
StatementIf the metastatic disease is progressing on neoadjuvant chemotherapy, then surgery is not indicated.Open
StatementIf the tumor and metastatic disease are responding to neoadjuvant chemotherapy, one would attack the primary tumor site with a resection, with many advocating for attempting a greater than 90% resection.Open
StatementMS disease is specifically for patients who have a primary site with metastatic disease to the liver, the skin, or the bone marrow (specifically not bone, not cortical bone) and is less than 18 months of age.Open
StatementIn patients with MS disease, simple observation can be the treatment path.Open
StatementIf MS disease patients progress or develop respiratory issues because of an enlarging liver mass, treatment might be elected because of the complication of the size of the tumor, but the tumor itself usually does not have to be treated.Open
QuotationMS disease is specifically for patients who have a primary site with metastatic disease to the liver, the skin, or the bone marrow, specifically not bone, not cortical bone, and is less than 18 months of age.Open
StatementPatients with metastatic neuroblastoma typically receive four or five cycles of neoadjuvant chemotherapy and then are reassessed.Open
StatementYou can biopsy the skin lesions in MS disease and that will give you the diagnosis.Open
Neuroblastoma
StatementAdrenal hemorrhage is the most common cause of prenatal suprarenal mass, especially with history of fetal stressOpen
StatementThe GetNucturne study showed that prenatal/neonatal neuroblastomas can be safely observed with careful ultrasound surveillance, with many patients spared surgeryOpen
StatementLymph node status in neuroblastoma does not change therapy, unlike Wilms tumorOpen
StatementApproximately 10% of neuroblastomas are not MIBG-avid, which is when PET scan may be usefulOpen
StatementTumor shrinkage in neuroblastoma plateaus after cycle 2-3 of chemotherapy per LaQuaglia and Von Allman studiesOpen
StatementCOG high-risk study showed >90% resection improved event-free survival but not overall survival (approximately 245 patients)Open
StatementEuropean neuroblastoma group study (approximately 1000 cases) showed >90% resection improved both event-free survival and overall survivalOpen
StatementApproximately 70% of high-risk neuroblastoma patients can achieve >90% resectionOpen
StatementNeuroblastoma theoretically does not invade vessel adventitia, though invasion has been observedOpen
StatementThere is zero correlation between surgeon operative note description of resection extent and post-operative imaging findingsOpen
QuotationThere is zero correlation, zero. There is absolutely no correlation between the findings on post-op imaging and the findings that are reported in the op note.Open
Update Course Rewind: Highlighting Collaboration from Surgery & Interventional Radiology in the OR 2024
StatementA hybrid OR is not required for image-guided surgery; collaboration can occur in regular ORs with ultrasound machines or in dual settings where patients go to interventional radiology for localization then to the OR.Open
QuotationSo it's important to understand that you don't have to have a hybrid OR to be able to do this type of collaboration.Open
QuotationAnd I think this is technology that many people have and don't realize that they have available at their institutions even if they're not. Do it within a hybrid OR space.Open
StatementCone beam CT technology is available at many institutions even if they don't have a hybrid OR space, though people may not realize they have it.Open
StatementDuring neuroblastoma excisions when dissecting near the aorta, ultrasound can be used every 5 minutes to identify the celiac takeoff and reorient the surgeon.Open
StatementUltrasound can be used at the end of cases to confirm vessel patency, such as looking at flow in kidney transplants, portal flow after Mesorex bypass, or renal flow after challenging neuroblastoma excisions where the renal hilum has been skeletonized.Open
StatementPulmonary nodule localization can be done with wire, coil, or dye depending on institutional preference.Open
StatementAt one institution (Laurie), pulmonary nodule localization is performed in two locations: first in pre-op CT where interventional radiologists use CT guidance to place a coil next to the nodule, then in the OR using fluoroscopy under two orthogonal planes to ensure accurate nodule identification and removal.Open
StatementUsing coil localization combined with dye eliminates the risk of wire displacement.Open
StatementVascular malformations are often managed in multidisciplinary VLC clinics where interventional radiologists offer sclerotherapy and pediatric surgeons offer resection, but sometimes a combination approach is best.Open
StatementFor vascular malformations not amenable to sclerotherapy alone, interventional radiologists can perform angiography, directly inject contrast, and place glue to ensure complete resection of small outpouchings or legs.Open
Daniel's statements about Soft Tissue Sarcoma (lymph nodes)59 statements
QuotationSo in the younger patients, they're oftentimes picked up either prenatally on ultrasound, or in younger kids, say two-year-old or three-year-old, it might be picked up as a solid abdominal mass.Open
StatementIn younger patients, neuroblastoma is often picked up either prenatally on ultrasound, or in younger kids (two-year-old or three-year-old) as a solid abdominal mass.Open
StatementWhen neuroblastoma patients have metastatic disease, they may present with either bony pain or potentially neurologic symptoms from cord compression.Open
StatementWhen considering neuroblastoma as part of the differential diagnosis, it is important to get catecholamines (either urine or serum) as one of the most diagnostic laboratory tests for this tumor.Open
StatementMost children with suspected neuroblastoma would get a cross-sectional imaging study, either a CT scan or an MRI.Open
StatementThe MIBG study is helpful for confirming the diagnosis of neuroblastoma and can also demonstrate metastatic disease.Open
StatementIf imaging suggests neuroblastoma (central abdominal mass or adrenal mass rather than kidney mass), the next test would be a nuclear medicine study, typically an MIBG study.Open
StatementAbout 10% of neuroblastomas are MIBG negative.Open
StatementSome centers, including Cincinnati Children's Hospital, would get a PET scan looking for tumor uptake as well as potential metastatic disease.Open
QuotationAbout 10% of neuroblastomas are MIBG negative.Open
StatementThere is a special category MS for children less than 18 months of age who have metastases to either the bone marrow or the skin.Open
StatementBased on the most recent iteration of the neuroblastoma staging system (INRGSS), it is possible to assign a stage before any invasive procedure is performed.Open
StatementIn the INRGSS system, tumors that are localized are categorized as L1; if localized but have image-defined risk factors (encasing nerves or vessels), they are L2; if they have metastatic disease, they are M.Open
StatementThe INRGSS pre-biopsy staging system was specifically created to allow studies from different centers in different countries to be compared based on the pre-surgical staging of the patient.Open
StatementThe prior neuroblastoma staging system required tissue diagnosis before assigning a stage.Open
StatementSome surgeons would approach resection of a localized neuroblastoma with laparoscopy depending on the size of the tumor.Open
StatementA child with an adrenal mass on the right side and a positive MIBG scan but no evidence of metastases could potentially be treated with a primary resection of the mass via laparotomy.Open
StatementFor very large masses that encase the aorta, cava, or other major vasculature, all you really want is tissue for diagnosis, which can be obtained through open biopsy, laparoscopic biopsy, or core needle biopsies done by an interventional radiologist.Open
StatementIn addition to NMIC status, you want to look for 1P and 11Q deletions and Shimada histology in neuroblastoma biopsy tissue.Open
StatementThe most important biologic risk determinant to obtain from neuroblastoma biopsy tissue is the NMIC status.Open
StatementNeuroblastoma risk is divided about 50-50 between the low risk categories and the high risk category, with a smaller percentage being intermediate risk.Open
StatementBiologic risk determinants from biopsy will tell you what risk category the patient falls into: very low risk, low risk, intermediate risk, or high risk.Open
StatementNMIC amplification and age greater than 18 months are the most important prognostic determinants for neuroblastoma.Open
StatementPatients with high risk neuroblastoma receive aggressive chemotherapy including peripheral stem cell transplant times 2, aggressive surgery with the goal of greater than 90% resection of the tumor, followed by radiation, immunotherapy after chemotherapy, and potentially retinoic acid therapy.Open
QuotationNMIC and age greater than 18 months are the most important prognostic determinants for neuroblastoma.Open
StatementFor intermediate risk neuroblastoma, the goal at the time of debulking or resecting the primary tumor is to achieve at least a 50% response from the initial volume of the primary tumor through the combination of neoadjuvant chemotherapy and surgical resection.Open
StatementIntermediate risk neuroblastoma tumors get varying cycles of chemotherapy based on the biologic risk factors they have.Open
StatementJed Nocturne led a study through the Children's Oncology Group looking at patients less than six months of age with either a prenatally diagnosed or shortly postnatally diagnosed localized mass, showing these patients can be observed with the expectation that the vast majority will avoid any type of surgical procedure.Open
StatementThe low risk neuroblastoma group, depending on the actual age of the patient and how it is diagnosed, could potentially be followed simply with observation.Open
StatementIf the tumor and metastatic disease are responding to neoadjuvant chemotherapy, one would attack the primary tumor site with a resection, with many advocating for attempting a greater than 90% resection.Open
StatementIf MS disease patients progress or develop respiratory issues because of an enlarging liver mass, treatment might be elected because of the complication of the size of the tumor, but the tumor itself usually does not have to be treated.Open
QuotationMS disease is specifically for patients who have a primary site with metastatic disease to the liver, the skin, or the bone marrow, specifically not bone, not cortical bone, and is less than 18 months of age.Open
StatementMS disease is specifically for patients who have a primary site with metastatic disease to the liver, the skin, or the bone marrow (specifically not bone, not cortical bone) and is less than 18 months of age.Open
StatementIn patients with MS disease, simple observation can be the treatment path.Open
StatementPatients with metastatic neuroblastoma typically receive four or five cycles of neoadjuvant chemotherapy and then are reassessed.Open
StatementIf the metastatic disease is progressing on neoadjuvant chemotherapy, then surgery is not indicated.Open
StatementYou can biopsy the skin lesions in MS disease and that will give you the diagnosis.Open
Neuroblastoma
StatementAdrenal hemorrhage is the most common cause of prenatal suprarenal mass, especially with history of fetal stressOpen
StatementThe GetNucturne study showed that prenatal/neonatal neuroblastomas can be safely observed with careful ultrasound surveillance, with many patients spared surgeryOpen
StatementLymph node status in neuroblastoma does not change therapy, unlike Wilms tumorOpen
StatementApproximately 10% of neuroblastomas are not MIBG-avid, which is when PET scan may be usefulOpen
StatementTumor shrinkage in neuroblastoma plateaus after cycle 2-3 of chemotherapy per LaQuaglia and Von Allman studiesOpen
StatementCOG high-risk study showed >90% resection improved event-free survival but not overall survival (approximately 245 patients)Open
StatementEuropean neuroblastoma group study (approximately 1000 cases) showed >90% resection improved both event-free survival and overall survivalOpen
StatementApproximately 70% of high-risk neuroblastoma patients can achieve >90% resectionOpen
StatementNeuroblastoma theoretically does not invade vessel adventitia, though invasion has been observedOpen
QuotationThere is zero correlation, zero. There is absolutely no correlation between the findings on post-op imaging and the findings that are reported in the op note.Open
StatementThere is zero correlation between surgeon operative note description of resection extent and post-operative imaging findingsOpen
Update Course Rewind: Highlighting Collaboration from Surgery & Interventional Radiology in the OR 2024
StatementA hybrid OR is not required for image-guided surgery; collaboration can occur in regular ORs with ultrasound machines or in dual settings where patients go to interventional radiology for localization then to the OR.Open
QuotationSo it's important to understand that you don't have to have a hybrid OR to be able to do this type of collaboration.Open
QuotationAnd I think this is technology that many people have and don't realize that they have available at their institutions even if they're not. Do it within a hybrid OR space.Open
StatementCone beam CT technology is available at many institutions even if they don't have a hybrid OR space, though people may not realize they have it.Open
StatementDuring neuroblastoma excisions when dissecting near the aorta, ultrasound can be used every 5 minutes to identify the celiac takeoff and reorient the surgeon.Open
StatementUltrasound can be used at the end of cases to confirm vessel patency, such as looking at flow in kidney transplants, portal flow after Mesorex bypass, or renal flow after challenging neuroblastoma excisions where the renal hilum has been skeletonized.Open
StatementPulmonary nodule localization can be done with wire, coil, or dye depending on institutional preference.Open
StatementAt one institution (Laurie), pulmonary nodule localization is performed in two locations: first in pre-op CT where interventional radiologists use CT guidance to place a coil next to the nodule, then in the OR using fluoroscopy under two orthogonal planes to ensure accurate nodule identification and removal.Open
StatementUsing coil localization combined with dye eliminates the risk of wire displacement.Open
StatementVascular malformations are often managed in multidisciplinary VLC clinics where interventional radiologists offer sclerotherapy and pediatric surgeons offer resection, but sometimes a combination approach is best.Open
StatementFor vascular malformations not amenable to sclerotherapy alone, interventional radiologists can perform angiography, directly inject contrast, and place glue to ensure complete resection of small outpouchings or legs.Open
Daniel's statements about Tracheoesophageal Fistula282 statements
Aerodigestive & Esophageal Surgery - Difficult Tracheal Esophageal Fistula
StatementIf a patient is aspirating from above (oropharyngeal or esophageal source), an anti-reflux procedure does not help and may make them worse.Open
StatementRoutine bronchoscopy is now standard practice for all type C TEF repairs at Cincinnati Children's, often done in collaboration with ENT colleagues.Open
StatementDual scoping (simultaneous bronchoscopy and esophagoscopy) allows scopes to 'shake hands' across a fistula, light transillumination through tissue, and injection of saline or air to reveal subtle openings.Open
QuotationThe tissue damage extends beyond what you can appreciate with the naked eye, and the progression of it probably extends beyond what you would think is the normal time frame.Open
StatementIn a patient with multiple bronchoesophageal fistulas and chronic bronchiectasis, lobectomy with resection of the esophageal pseudo-diverticulum can be performed safely; the esophagus can be primarily closed if not strictured.Open
Tracheoesophageal Fistula with Dr. Daniel von Allmen
QuotationIt certainly is an interest that we have here with a whole group here in Cincinnati, but it can be an incredibly difficult, challenging problem. It's one of the great cases in pediatric surgery and one of the most difficult cases, so it really runs the whole spectrum for sure.Open
StatementCincinnati Children's has a multidisciplinary aerodigestive center that includes ENT airway surgeons, GI, pulmonary, general surgeons, nurse practitioners, geneticists, and dietitians.Open
StatementInjecting air into the NG tube and obtaining a plain film helps visualize distention of the proximal esophageal pouch.Open
QuotationIf I can't see a distended proximal pouch, then I worry. I worry that either one of two things either that the diagnosis is incorrect and in fact it is not an esophageal atresia, or that there could be a proximal fistula which is allowing that proximal pouch to decompress.Open
StatementLack of visible proximal pouch distention raises concern for either incorrect diagnosis or presence of a proximal fistula allowing pouch decompression.Open
StatementPreoperative echocardiogram is essential to assess cardiac anatomy and identify right-sided aortic arch.Open
StatementRenal ultrasound and spine evaluation for tethered cord are needed but are not necessary before addressing esophageal atresia.Open
StatementConventional wisdom suggests left thoracotomy for right-sided aortic arch, though the operation is somewhat more difficult with the heart more in the way.Open
StatementIf right-sided arch is discovered intraoperatively during right thoracotomy, it is possible to complete the operation from that side, though some reports suggest higher incidence of swallowing problems.Open
StatementIn a stable, larger baby not requiring intubation, it is reasonable to wait until full resources are available (Sunday or Monday) rather than operating emergently on Saturday.Open
StatementProlonged delay risks colonization of the GI tract and soiling of the lungs.Open
StatementOscillator ventilation has not been found to make a significant difference in managing infants with large fistulas and abdominal distention.Open
StatementAir preferentially entering the GI tract rather than lungs is a bigger problem in more premature infants with poor lung compliance.Open
StatementTreating with surfactant and improving lung compliance helps as much as changing ventilator type in managing fistula-related ventilation problems.Open
StatementOne risk in managing the deteriorating infant with TEF is waiting too long to make a decision, which can lead to an emergency situation with inability to ventilate.Open
QuotationOne of the risks is to wait too long to make a decision, and, and I've made that mistake myself, and then it becomes an emergency if you can't ventilate the child.Open
StatementBronchoscopic placement of Fogarty balloon in the fistula is difficult unless expertise and equipment are immediately available.Open
StatementG-tube decompression may paradoxically worsen ventilation by creating even lower resistance pathway, allowing more air to flow from trachea to GI tract rather than to lungs.Open
StatementLaparotomy with vessel loop around gastroesophageal junction with gentle traction (Rommel tourniquet technique) can be used to stabilize critically ill infant, with G-tube placement and delayed definitive repair after several days.Open
StatementIn esophageal atresia with associated duodenal atresia, if the child is stable, consider fixing duodenal atresia first to avoid repairing esophagus upstream from an obstruction.Open
StatementBoth esophageal and duodenal atresia can potentially be repaired in the same operative setting if the child is stable enough.Open
StatementRoutine intraoperative bronchoscopy documents fistula location, assesses for proximal fistula, and most importantly identifies laryngeal clefts that are easily missed.Open
StatementLaryngeal clefts have been seen many times in referred patients who had multiple thoracotomies but never had bronchoscopy.Open
QuotationWe have seen that many times in patients who are referred who've had multiple thoracotomies. Nobody ever did a bronchoscopy and the child actually has a laryngeal cleft.Open
StatementThe rate of missed second fistula is approximately 1%.Open
StatementHigh fistulas exist on a spectrum from essentially a trifurcation of the carina to fistulas high enough to be approachable through the neck.Open
StatementEndotracheal tube positioning depends on fistula location: for fistula at carina (trifurcation), tube should be placed higher; for high fistula, tube should be placed distal to fistula but not into the fistula itself.Open
StatementExtrapleural approach offers the advantage of potentially limiting soilage of pleural space if there is a postoperative leak.Open
StatementDividing the azygos vein has no morbidity, gives better access, and frequently guides to the fistula location.Open
StatementFor open repair, the azygos is typically ligated and divided with suture.Open
StatementThe 3mm Just Right surgical sealer is an ideal device for dividing the azygos in this size patient.Open
StatementTo establish extrapleural plane, place heel of right angle on ribs and spread to nicely show the plane, then mobilize pleura posteriorly to expose azygos.Open
StatementMobilizing pleura up around apex of lung is important to allow access for proximal pouch mobilization.Open
StatementDistal esophageal segment is controlled with vessel loop, allowing proximal dissection to identify the fistula site.Open
StatementContrary to standard teaching that distal esophagus should not be mobilized, it can be mobilized extensively especially laterally, all the way to the diaphragm.Open
StatementMedial mobilization of distal esophagus requires more caution due to blood supply concerns.Open
StatementExtensive proximal pouch mobilization provides the most important length gain for anastomosis.Open
StatementFor proximal dissection, blade cautery with light buzz followed by mostly blunt dissection with flat end of blade, staying right on the thickened esophagus, is preferred; better to enter esophagus than trachea high in chest.Open
QuotationI would rather be in the esophagus than be in the trachea up high in the chest.Open
StatementFor large tracheal injury, sleeve resection is possible given tracheal mobility; pericardium or autologous tissue should be interposed between trachea and esophageal repair.Open
Statement5-0 PDS (absorbable monofilament) is the preferred suture for esophageal anastomosis; silk is not favored.Open
StatementMyotomies are not favored because they potentially create even more dysfunctional esophageal segment; motility is already abnormal in esophageal atresia.Open
QuotationI personally am not a big fan of myotomy. I think it potentially creates an even more dysfunctional segment of the esophagus than already exists. The motility is clearly abnormal in patients with oesophageal atresia, and doing a myotomy just makes that problem worse.Open
StatementFor long-gap atresia when ends cannot be brought together, approach is to ligate distal end after dividing fistula, tack both ends on tension to prevertebral fascia, close, allow patient to grow 2-3 weeks, then return for anastomosis.Open
StatementTraction or pressure is a strong stimulus to growth throughout the body including cardiovascular system and lungs.Open
StatementFor thoracoscopic Foker technique, traction sutures are placed in proximal and distal ends, brought out through trocar sites above and below (crossed), tensioned, with return to OR within a week for anastomosis.Open
StatementInternal Foker (tacking ends to prevertebral fascia) is preferred over classic Foker with prolonged paralysis and sequential tensioning.Open
StatementFor thoracoscopic TEF repair, patient is rotated past 90 degrees to allow gravity to move lungs away, with standard port placement: camera center, posterior port inferiorly, anterior port superiorly.Open
Statement3mm instruments are used for thoracoscopic TEF repair.Open
StatementThoracoscopic visualization is very helpful for mobilizing the proximal pouch.Open
QuotationI'm less worried about them falling off the esophagus than I am having them fall off a blood vessel.Open
StatementThe anastomosis is the most difficult part of thoracoscopic TEF repair and requires significant minimally invasive experience.Open
QuotationI think that's one of the challenges with the thoracoscopic repair of a TEF is to actually sew the anastomosis.Open
StatementSimulation courses for thoracoscopic TEF repair will be a great advantage for trainees given the infrequency of these cases.Open
QuotationTo me, the important part, and I beat on our residents about this when they're doing this anastomosis, is you have to be able to see. You want to make sure that you incorporate mucosa on every stitch.Open
StatementEvery stitch must incorporate mucosa, which requires good visualization; the hanging stitch helps visualize lumens of both proximal and distal ends.Open
StatementVentilator management during thoracoscopy depends more on anesthesiologist comfort and attention than ventilator type (oscillator vs. conventional).Open
StatementEndotracheal tube can be positioned to selectively ventilate left lung during thoracoscopy, aided by preoperative bronchoscopy.Open
StatementA little CO2 insufflation with time will collapse the lung as long as anesthesiologist is not fighting with positive pressure; anesthesiologists can get scared by initial shunting but things settle down.Open
StatementEarly extubation is preferred when patient had good lung function preoperatively and operation went smoothly, even potentially in the operating room, to avoid positive pressure on tracheal repair and instead have negative intratracheal pressure with spontaneous breathing.Open
QuotationI'm equally concerned that positive pressure is putting pressure on my tracheal repair, and I would much rather have the patient be breathing spontaneously to have, in fact, the opposite effect of a negative pressure in the trachea.Open
StatementContrast esophagram is obtained at 5-7 days postoperatively before pulling chest drain.Open
QuotationI do honestly, I'm a little bit old school in that. I still get an esophagram.Open
StatementSmall TLS drains are used rather than formal chest tubes, especially for open extrapleural approach.Open
QuotationI do not actually. I again, a practice of mine that has changed based on our results from the Midwest Pediatric Surgical Consortium study in which the patients who Had a trans anastomotic tube had a much higher stricture and leak rate than patients that did not have that.Open
QuotationUnless it's an incredibly tight stricture, I would wait several weeks before doing a dilation unless I was worried there was going to be a complete obstruction.Open
StatementFor stricture on esophagram, dilation is delayed several weeks unless stricture is critically tight, because proximal pouch is always dilated making anastomosis always appear narrowed.Open
StatementIf contrast flows freely down distal esophagus, dilation can be held off several weeks.Open
StatementDilations are performed aggressively, typically waiting one week between dilation and restudy, then potentially dilating again.Open
StatementBalloon (radial) dilation is less traumatic to tissue than bougie dilators and is preferred.Open
StatementIf case goes well and postoperative study looks great, routine follow-up esophagrams are not obtained; patients are studied only if they present with symptoms suggesting stricture.Open
QuotationI would absolutely wait and do nothing. I would leave the drain in and usually that presents with some saliva in the drain, and I would just wait, and the vast majority of those close.Open
StatementFor small anastomotic leak in stable child, conservative management with drain in place is appropriate; vast majority close spontaneously.Open
StatementLeak increases risk of postoperative stricture.Open
StatementIndications for operative intervention for leak are worsening clinical status, wide open leak, or large uncontrolled pneumothorax.Open
StatementRepeat esophagram is typically performed one week after initial leak identification; if small outpouching persists but nothing comes out of tube and contrast doesn't extend further, leak is probably healed and tube can be removed.Open
StatementPediatric surgeons do not do a fantastic job of long-term follow-up with esophageal atresia patients.Open
QuotationI think that first of all I would make the comment that that's a great point and it's interesting to participate in the International oesophageal atresia meeting that occurs every 2 years and to go and see the patients because that meeting is multidisciplinary, including even patients, and you see these patients who come back who are in their 20s or 30s or 40s and they talk about the long term issues that they have and we tend to follow patients until they're, you know, until they're eating well and then they're gone.Open
StatementAt International Esophageal Atresia meetings, patients in their 20s-40s describe long-term issues that surgeons are unaware of because follow-up typically ends at age 18 or when eating well.Open
StatementPatients with recurrent strictures presenting with food bolus obstruction are seen and dilated on an ongoing basis.Open
StatementGreater concern is patients with ongoing reflux; long-term impact on Barrett's esophagus and malignant change risk is unknown.Open
QuotationThe patients that worry me more honestly are the patients who have ongoing reflux, and we don't know the long term impact of that on things like Barrett's esophagus and Potential long term risk for malignant change and those sorts of things.Open
StatementIf stricture has been dilated 2-3 times, next move is to address reflux.Open
StatementMost patients are discharged on anti-reflux medications.Open
QuotationI would argue that virtually all patients have some degree of gastroesophageal reflux.Open
StatementVirtually all esophageal atresia patients have some degree of gastroesophageal reflux.Open
StatementFor stricture not responsive to dilations (dilates easily then restrictures), aggressive approach is fundoplication.Open
StatementDespite poor esophageal motility, Nissen fundoplication is still performed but made loose and short, using 2 or at most 3 stitches for the wrap.Open
StatementFor pure esophageal atresia, approach is G-tube placement with calibration of gap length using distal catheter pushed up distal esophagus and NG tube in proximal esophagus, wait 4-6 weeks, and attempt primary repair once ends are within 2 vertebral bodies.Open
Tracheoesophageal Fistula with Dr. Daniel von Allmen
QuotationIt certainly is an interest that we have here with a whole group here in Cincinnati, but it can be an incredibly difficult, challenging problem. It's one of the great cases in pediatric surgery and one of the most difficult cases, so it really runs the whole spectrum for sure.Open
StatementCincinnati Children's has a multidisciplinary aerodigestive center including ENT airway surgeons, GI, pulmonary, general surgeons, nurse practitioners, geneticists, and dietitiansOpen
StatementThe aerodigestive center typically receives more complicated patients referred from outside through either esophageal or airway armsOpen
StatementPhysical examination should assess for scaphoid versus full or distended abdomen and respiratory distressOpen
QuotationI personally like to try to pass the NG tube myself, having been burned with NG tubes that wouldn't go down, and the patient was started on treatment as an oesophageal atresia and subsequently found that the NG tube passes just fine.Open
StatementThe surgeon should personally attempt to pass the NG tube rather than relying on nursing reports, as tubes reported as not passing sometimes pass easilyOpen
StatementInjecting air into the NG tube and obtaining a plain film helps visualize proximal pouch distention and assess distal GI gas patternOpen
StatementLack of visible distended proximal pouch raises concern for either incorrect diagnosis or presence of proximal fistula allowing pouch decompressionOpen
QuotationIf I can't see a distended proximal pouch, then I worry. I worry that either one of two things either that the diagnosis is incorrect and in fact it is not an esophageal atresia, or that there could be a proximal fistula which is allowing that proximal pouch to decompress.Open
StatementContrast studies can be performed if there is high suspicion of unusual anatomy, as long as the radiologist knows the esophagus may be obstructedOpen
QuotationThe most important one prior to taking the patient to the operating room is to get an echocardiogram, and the utility of that is, is obviously to assess the cardiac anatomy, but more as importantly, I would say is to assess to be sure that the patient does not have a right-sided aortic arch.Open
StatementEchocardiogram is the most important preoperative study to assess cardiac anatomy and rule out right-sided aortic archOpen
StatementRenal ultrasound and spine evaluation for tethered cord are needed but are elective and not necessary before addressing esophageal atresiaOpen
StatementConventional wisdom is to perform left thoracotomy for right-sided aortic archOpen
StatementLeft thoracotomy for right-sided arch is somewhat more difficult with the heart more in the way and harder proximal pouch mobilizationOpen
StatementIt is possible to complete the repair from the right side if right-sided arch is discovered intraoperatively, though some reports suggest higher incidence of swallowing problemsOpen
StatementIn a stable larger baby not intubated, it is reasonable to wait until all resources are available in the middle of the day, even waiting 1-2 daysOpen
StatementShould not wait a long time before repair due to risk of colonizing GI tract and soiling lungsOpen
QuotationI've not found personally that an oscillator makes a whole lot of difference. I think if the child has a, has a large fistula, and typically it's actually, I believe this tends to be a bigger problem in younger, that is more premature infants who have more significant lung disease, and their compliance of their lungs is really what drives the The air into the GI tract as opposed to into the lungs.Open
StatementLarge fistula with distention tends to be a bigger problem in more premature infants with significant lung disease, where poor lung compliance drives air into GI tractOpen
StatementOscillator ventilation does not make a significant difference in managing large fistulas with abdominal distentionOpen
StatementTreating with surfactant and improving lung compliance helps as much as changing ventilator typeOpen
QuotationI think this is a difficult clinical scenario, and, and I think one of the risks is to wait too long to make a decision, and I've made that mistake myself, and then it becomes an emergency if you can't ventilate the child.Open
StatementRisk of waiting too long to make a decision in worsening distention can lead to emergency situation where child cannot be ventilatedOpen
QuotationDecompressing the stomach may just allow that to become, in effect, the even lower resistance and allow more air to go there, making it even more difficult to ventilate. You relieve the abdominal distention, but you don't fix the flow of gas from the Trachea to the GI tract as opposed to from the trachea to the lungs.Open
StatementFor reasonably stable but worsening distention, would take child urgently to OR for right thoracotomy and fistula ligationOpen
StatementBronchoscopic Fogarty balloon placement sounds good but is difficult unless expertise and equipment are immediately availableOpen
StatementG-tube decompression may paradoxically worsen ventilation by making stomach lower resistance, allowing more air to go there instead of lungsOpen
StatementLaparotomy with vessel loop around esophagogastric junction at hiatus with gentle traction (Rommel tourniquet technique) can temporize severe cases, leaving in place for several days before definitive repairOpen
StatementFor associated duodenal atresia in stable child, would potentially fix duodenal atresia first to avoid fixing esophagus upstream from obstructionOpen
StatementBoth duodenal and esophageal atresia could potentially be fixed at same time if child is old enough and stable enoughOpen
QuotationThat is one of the things that I have changed in my management after coming here and having exposure to the patient population that we see, the complex patients that we see with the esophageal center and the neurodigestive center, and The airway surgeons here have convinced me that it is really important to do a bronchoscopyOpen
QuotationWe have seen that many times in patients who are referred who've had multiple thoracotomies. Nobody ever did a bronchoscopy and the child actually has a laryngeal cleftOpen
StatementVon Allmen changed practice to always perform intraoperative bronchoscopy after exposure to Cincinnati's complex patient populationOpen
StatementBronchoscopy documents fistula location, assesses for proximal fistula, and most importantly rules out laryngeal cleft which is easily missedOpen
StatementMany referred patients with multiple thoracotomies never had bronchoscopy and actually have laryngeal cleftOpen
StatementSecond fistula occurs in approximately 1% of cases and can be very difficult to diagnoseOpen
StatementHigh fistulas can range from trifurcation of carina (suggesting difficulty getting ends together) to very high fistulas potentially approachable through neckOpen
StatementBronchoscopy allows guidance of ET tube placement by anesthesiologist based on fistula locationOpen
StatementFor fistula at carina (trifurcation), ET tube should be placed higher as it cannot pass the fistula; for high fistula, tube should be placed distal to fistula but not into the fistula itselfOpen
QuotationI do an extra plural approach and that's the way I was trained. I think it offers the advantage of potentially limiting any soilage of the plural space if there is a leak postoperatively.Open
StatementExtrapleural approach offers advantage of potentially limiting soilage of pleural space if there is postoperative leakOpen
QuotationI think there's no morbidity associated with that, so dividing the azygus gives you better access. In fact, frequently will guide you to the fistula.Open
StatementDividing azygos has no morbidity, gives better access, and frequently guides to the fistulaOpen
StatementOpen azygos division is done by ligation and division; thoracoscopically can use energy devices or clipsOpen
QuotationIt is amazing what you can divide with the electric cautery, with the hook electric cautery if you just get used to it, and I learned that doing actually robotic Nissans that you can divide the short gastrics in a teenager with the with the hook electric cautery.Open
StatementHook cautery can safely divide vessels if done slowly going up and down to ensure coagulation, learned from robotic Nissen experience dividing short gastricsOpen
Statement3mm surgical sealer is ideal device for this size patient and vesselOpen
StatementSpreading heel of right angle on ribs nicely shows extrapleural plane when going through intercostal musclesOpen
StatementImportant to mobilize pleura up around apex of lung to have access for proximal pouch mobilizationOpen
StatementAfter azygos division, identify distal esophagus and control with vessel loop, then dissect proximally to identify fistula siteOpen
StatementMuscle-sparing thoracotomy can make exposure more difficult; has not seen significant morbidity from standard posterolateral thoracotomyOpen
StatementStandard teaching has been not to mobilize distal esophagus, but can actually mobilize it significantly especially laterally all the way to diaphragmOpen
StatementExtensive proximal pouch mobilization gives the most length to get ends togetherOpen
QuotationI think we have learned that, you know, the standard teaching has been that you shouldn't mobilize the distal esophagus at all, and I think we've learned that in fact you can mobilize that segment a fair amount, especially laterally.Open
StatementMust be careful with medial mobilization of distal esophagus due to blood supply concernsOpen
StatementThoracoscopic approach advantage is clearer visualization for proximal pouch mobilizationOpen
QuotationI completely agree, and I think that you have to be very careful. I personally like to just use a blade, electric cautery and with a little buzz and then mostly blunt dissection with the flat end of the blade, and I think that. That can help you and staying right on the esophagus, which is usually very thickened because it's an obstructed piece of bowel. I would rather be in the esophagus than be in the trachea up high in the chest.Open
StatementBetter to be in esophagus than trachea during high chest dissection; esophagus is thickened from obstructionOpen
StatementRisk of entering trachea during proximal dissection; must be very careful using blade cautery with light buzz and mostly blunt dissection with flat end of bladeOpen
StatementFor significant tracheal defect, could perform sleeve resection as trachea is incredibly mobile, then place pericardium or autologous tissue between trachea and esophageal repairOpen
StatementPersonal preference is 5-0 PDS - absorbable monofilament suture; not a fan of silkOpen
QuotationI personally am not a big fan of myotomy. I think it. Potentially creates an even more dysfunctional segment of the esophagus than already exists. The motility is clearly abnormal in patients with oesophageal atresia, and doing a myotomy just makes that problem worse.Open
StatementNot a fan of myotomies as they potentially create even more dysfunctional esophageal segment; motility is already clearly abnormal in esophageal atresiaOpen
StatementFor cases too tight for primary repair, would ligate ends, tack both on tension to prevertebral fascia, close, let patient grow for couple weeks, then return to put togetherOpen
StatementTraction or pressure is very strong stimulus to growth throughout cardiovascular system and lungsOpen
QuotationI believe very firmly in the physiology of traction or pressure. Actually it's sort of the reverse, is a very strong stimulus to growth all over the place in the cardiovascular system in the lungsOpen
StatementWould not do classic Foker technique with prolonged paralysis and sequential suture tensioningOpen
StatementFor thoracoscopic approach, can place traction sutures in proximal and distal ends brought out through crossed trocar sites with tension, allowing return within a week for anastomosisOpen
StatementFoker technique requires patients intubated and paralyzed spending weeks in ICU, which is probably worth it if you get good resultOpen
StatementRusty Jennings and Foker published series in JPS showing 98% success getting ends together in primary atresia versus only 67% in secondary approaches after previous surgeriesOpen
QuotationThey published a series a year ago or so in JPS looking at their results, and, and it was a very carefully well documented report of their results, and the data are striking if you Have a patient who has a primary atresia that you address, then in 98% of patients they're able to get the two ends of the esophagus together. In contrast, if it's a patient who's had previous surgeries and it's a secondary approach, then only 2/3 of those patients ever get the esophagus together.Open
StatementFor thoracoscopic procedure, rotate patient past 90 degrees to allow gravity to move lungs out of wayOpen
StatementStandard port placement: camera in center, posterior port inferiorly, anterior port superiorlyOpen
StatementUses 3mm instruments for thoracoscopic TEF repairOpen
QuotationI'm less worried about them falling off the esophagus than I am having them fall off a blood vessel.Open
StatementThoracoscopic visualization is very helpful for mobilizing proximal pouchOpen
StatementSimulation courses for TEF repair will be great advantage for trainees as these cases are not done often enough to get practiceOpen
StatementImportant to do same quality operation thoracoscopically as would do openOpen
StatementSewing the anastomosis is one of the challenges with thoracoscopic TEF repair and requires most experience with minimally invasive techniquesOpen
StatementWould use clips for dividing fistula thoracoscopically, less worried about them falling off esophagus than blood vesselOpen
QuotationI think as with most minimally invasive operations, I think it's important to do the same operation or at least the same quality operation that you would do open and Frankly, I think that's one of the challenges with the thoracoscopic repair of a TEF is to actually sew the anastomosis.Open
QuotationI think it's more dependent on the anesthesiologist than it is on the type of ventilator, and you have to have an anesthesiologist who's comfortable with doing this and understands what you're trying to accomplish and is paying attention while you're actually doing the operation because they can either help you a lot or hurt you a lot with how they ventilate the child.Open
StatementThoracoscopic ventilation management depends more on anesthesiologist than ventilator type; need anesthesiologist comfortable with procedure who pays attention during operationOpen
StatementAnesthesiologists can get scared seeing initial shunting but things settle down if they waitOpen
StatementLittle CO2 insufflation with some time will collapse lung as long as anesthesiologist isn't fighting with positive pressureOpen
StatementPrefer spontaneous breathing with negative pressure in trachea rather than positive pressureOpen
QuotationI agree it is a concern that the patient may require reintubation. However, I'm equally concerned that positive pressure is putting pressure on my tracheal repair, and I would much rather have the patient be breathing spontaneously to have, in fact, the opposite effect of a negative pressure in the trachea.Open
StatementIf patient had good lung function preoperatively and operation went smoothly, advocate extubating as soon as possible, even conceivably in operating roomOpen
StatementConcern about reintubation exists, but equally concerned that positive pressure puts pressure on tracheal repairOpen
StatementUses small TLS drain rather than formal chest tube, especially for open extrapleural approachOpen
QuotationI do honestly, I'm a little bit old school in that. I still get an esophagram. I usually wait for about 5 days.Open
StatementGets contrast study at 5-7 days before pulling chest drain, timing depends on avoiding weekendsOpen
StatementDoes not use transanastomotic tube based on Midwest Pediatric Surgical Consortium study showing much higher stricture and leak rate with transanastomotic tubesOpen
QuotationI do not actually. I again, a practice of mine that has changed based on our results from the Midwest Pediatric Surgical Consortium study in which the patients who Had a trans anastomotic tube had a much higher stricture and leak rate than patients that did not have that.Open
StatementMidwest consortium study was presented at APSA and should be published in JPS soonOpen
QuotationUnless it's an incredibly tight stricture, I would wait several weeks before doing a dilation unless I was worried there was going to be a complete obstruction.Open
QuotationThere's always reported a narrowing because the proximal pouch is always dilated, so it always looks like there's a narrowing at the anastomosis. As long as it's patent and contrast flows freely down the distal esophagus, I would hold off on. Uh, dialing it, dilating it probably several weeks if possible.Open
StatementAlways appears to be narrowing at anastomosis because proximal pouch is dilated; as long as patent with free contrast flow distally, would hold off on dilationOpen
StatementUnless incredibly tight stricture risking complete obstruction, would wait several weeks before first dilationOpen
StatementIf case goes well and post-op study looks great, does not get routine follow-up esophagrams; studies based on clinical symptoms suggesting strictureOpen
StatementHuge spectrum from very tight strictures requiring many dilations to kids fine after one dilationOpen
QuotationI think that again, having trained using bougie dilators, a balloon or radial dilation is, is less traumatic for the tissueOpen
StatementDilations done with GI colleagues in aerodigestive center for bigger kids or with interventional radiologistsOpen
StatementBalloon or radial dilation is less traumatic for tissue than bougie dilatorsOpen
StatementFor small leak with child not sick, would absolutely wait and do nothing, leaving drain in; vast majority closeOpen
QuotationI would absolutely wait and do nothing. I would leave the drain in and usually that presents with some saliva in the drain, and I would just wait, and the vast majority of those close.Open
StatementEven reasonably significant leaks will heal, then can deal with stricture postoperativelyOpen
StatementWould only go to OR for leak if child getting sicker, wide open leak, or large uncontrollable pneumothoraxOpen
StatementUsually waits one week between esophagrams for leak; if child continues to do well, restudiesOpen
StatementSometimes little outpouching where leak happened makes it unclear if still leaking; if nothing from tube and nothing goes further, leak probably healed and would remove tubeOpen
QuotationI think that first of all I would make the comment that that's a great point and it's interesting to participate in the International oesophageal atresia. A meeting that occurs every 2 years and to go and see the patients because that meeting is multidisciplinary, including even patients, and you see these patients who come back who are in their 20s or 30s or 40s and they talk about the long term issues that they have and we tend to follow patients until they're, you know, until they're eating well and then they're goneOpen
StatementInternational esophageal atresia meeting occurs every 2 years and is multidisciplinary including patientsOpen
StatementPatients in their 20s-40s at international meeting discuss long-term issues; surgeons tend to follow until eating well or age 18 then never see them againOpen
StatementHave a lot to learn about long-term complications; personally follows patients for at least couple years which is probably not long enoughOpen
QuotationThe patients that worry me more honestly are the patients who have ongoing reflux, and we don't know the long term impact of that on things like Barrett's esophagus and Potential long term risk for malignant change and those sorts of things.Open
StatementMore concerning are patients with ongoing reflux due to unknown long-term impact on Barrett's esophagus and potential malignant changeOpen
StatementBiggest challenges in long-term follow-up are reflux and recurrent stricturesOpen
StatementIf patient has stricture dilated 2-3 times, next move would be to address refluxOpen
StatementVirtually all patients have some degree of gastroesophageal refluxOpen
StatementMost patients left on anti-reflux medications when discharged from hospitalOpen
StatementVery aggressive about fundoplication for strictures not responsive to dilations (dilates easily then restrictures)Open
QuotationIf I have a patient who has a stricture that's been dilated 2 or 3 times, my next move would be to address reflux. Most of the patients we leave on anti-reflux medications when they are discharged from the hospital. I would argue that virtually all patients have some degree of gastroesophageal reflux. If they have a stricture that is not responsive to dilations, it dilates easily and then restrictures. I personally am very aggressive about doing a fundoplication on those patientsOpen
StatementWould wait 4-6 weeks to see how close ends come together, then attempt primary repair once within 2 vertebral bodiesOpen
StatementFor pure esophageal atresia, approach is G-tube placement with calibration of gap length using distal catheter pushed up and NG tube in proximal pouchOpen
QuotationI do, but as with most Nissans, I make them loose and I make them short, so I usually use two or at most 3 stitches for the wrap and make sure that it is loose around the distal esophagus.Open
StatementDoes Nissen fundoplication in patients with poor esophageal motility but makes them loose and short, using 2 or at most 3 stitchesOpen
Treatment for Long Gap Esophageal Atresia: Esophageal Elongation and Replacement
StatementAt Cincinnati Children's, if a child has no gas in the abdomen, they place a G-tube and may put something up the distal esophagus for a fluoro shot, then wait a couple of weeks for a protocol gap measurement in interventional radiology.Open
QuotationOur method here is that if we have a child with no gas in the abdomen and we take them to the OR and put a G-tube in, many times we'll do, we'll put something up the distal esophagus at that point and just get a fluoro shot. But then we'd wait a couple of weeks and we have our patients go down to interventional radiology where we have a protocol for measuring the gap.Open
QuotationBut the philosophy here is that with traction, you can get the two ends of the esophagus to grow. And if you can get them to grow far enough, you can put them together.Open
QuotationThe physiology, which I believe in intensely, is that stretch is a very strong promoter of growth. And then if you put things on tension, they will actually grow over time. That's how the cardiovascular system develops in utero.Open
StatementThe philosophy of traction-based elongation is that with traction, you can get the two ends of the esophagus to grow, and if you can get them to grow far enough, you can put them together.Open
StatementStretch is a very strong promoter of growth, and if you put things on tension they will actually grow over time, which is how the cardiovascular system develops in utero.Open
QuotationYou can actually use the colon as an interposition as well. I personally was trained to do colon interpositions.Open
StatementThe colon can be used as an interposition for esophageal replacement.Open
QuotationCommon problems with this are that they dilate and they can become tortuous. It's not uncommon to get kind of a sigmoid sink drain deformity just above the diaphragm.Open
StatementCommon problems with colonic interposition are that the colon can dilate and become tortuous, and it's not uncommon to get a sigmoid sink drain deformity just above the diaphragm.Open
StatementVon Allman was initially taught that sigmoid redundancy in colonic interposition can't be fixed and that it's too dangerous because it will risk the blood supply, but he found that this is not really true.Open
QuotationI was taught initially that you can't fix that and that it's too dangerous and that you'll risk the blood supply to the colon interposition. But I found that actually that's not really true.Open
QuotationSo I wouldn't pretend to say that these don't need to be revised sometimes, but it is not impossible to revise them and the kids tend to do pretty well.Open
QuotationI pass the interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine. And you can mobilize the colon. You can divide the gastric dual aporotomy, divide the colon attachment to the stomach, and then mobilize that sigmoid redundancy transhiatally, and then reinestimose the colon to the stomach.Open
StatementVon Allman passes the colonic interposition posterior to the stomach, which leaves the vascular pedicle along the spine, allowing mobilization of the colon by dividing the gastric duodenotomy and colon attachment to the stomach, then mobilizing the sigmoid redundancy transhiatally and reanastomosing the colon to the stomach.Open
StatementColonic interpositions sometimes need to be revised, but it is not impossible to revise them and the kids tend to do pretty well.Open
StatementYou can get extraordinary length with colonic interposition, allowing treatment of cases with caustic injuries extending to the pharynx by sewing the colon to the pharynx and down to the stomach, which is tough to do with a gastric pull-up.Open
QuotationYou can get extraordinary length on this. And Mike and I have done a few cases for kids who had disasters, multiple operations elsewhere, who had caustic injuries that were involved all the way up to the pharynx, where we had to do a lot of work just on the pharynx to get that open, and then literally sew the colon interposition to the pharynx and then down to the stomach, which is obviously tough to do with a gastric pull-up.Open
QuotationI don't think we know we should do the studies to understand that. But I would say that this gets back to David van der Zee's comment about, go have a cup of coffee and come back and it'll be fine. Clearly, that's not growth, that's stretch.Open
StatementVon Allman states we don't know whether esophageal elongation is growth or stretch and should do studies to understand that, but notes that tension is a very good physiologic growth promoter in other organs, making this an area ripe for more basic science.Open
QuotationAnd yet there's very good physiologic data that tension is a growth promoter, not necessarily in the esophagus, but in other organs. So I think that it's an area ripe for a little more basic science.Open
Esophageal Replacement with Dr. Dan von Allmen
QuotationWe have a tendency to say TEF when we mean esophageal atresia, so just be very careful when you're talking about these things that you're clear about what you're talking about, because when you say, oh, the patient had a TEF when really. They had is a pure esophageal atresia. That's just not correct.Open
StatementEsophageal atresia incidence is 1 in 4500 in the United States with slight male predominanceOpen
StatementRecurrence risk of esophageal atresia among parents who have one affected child is 0.5 to 2%Open
StatementPrenatal ultrasound detects only about half of esophageal atresia cases, primarily detecting pure atresia due to significant proximal pouch dilationOpen
StatementThe most common type of esophageal atresia is proximal atresia with distal fistulaOpen
StatementEsophageal atresia associated with significant cardiac anomalies and low birth weight has only 27 to 30% survival rateOpen
StatementVACTERL is an association, not a syndrome, requiring 3 of the defects for diagnosisOpen
StatementIn type C fistula with respiratory distress, air continuously goes into the intestine via the low resistance pathway instead of into the lungs, causing increased stomach size and affecting respiratory complianceOpen
StatementG-tube decompression or needle decompression helps temporarily but air still follows the low resistance pathway out of the G-tube instead of going into the lungsOpen
StatementPutting vessel loop around distal esophagus is easier than dividing the fistula when in trouble during surgeryOpen
QuotationWe believe quite strongly that every child with a tracheoesophageal fistula or esophageal atresia needs a bronchoscopy.Open
StatementEvery child with tracheoesophageal fistula or esophageal atresia needs bronchoscopy due to 10-15% association of airway issues and to help plan surgeryOpen
StatementVirtually all kids with esophageal atresia have some element of tracheomalacia, though clinical significance variesOpen
QuotationI personally believe that there is some Growth in the esophagus and typically our approach is to wait several weeks. I think once you get past probably 4 to 6 weeks, there's not going to be any more growth.Open
StatementThere is growth in the esophagus over time, but once past 4 to 6 weeks there is not going to be any more growthOpen
StatementFor significant gap, approach is to support child with enteral bolus feedings to put stretch on the distal esophagus and get sequential gap studies, then take to OR at 6 weeksOpen
StatementFor thoracoscopy, patient positioning should be almost 45 degrees from prone, pushed to one side of bed, with camera port looking straight down at esophagus providing better visualization than open surgeryOpen
StatementThe azygos vein guides to the level of the fistula because the fistula typically occurs right about the level of the azygos veinOpen
StatementWhen placing clip on fistula, it must be flush with the trachea to avoid leaving a long pouch that can pool secretions and cause problemsOpen
StatementAnesthesiologist needs to push down repeatedly to help find the proximal pouch during surgeryOpen
StatementIt is safer to put a hole in the esophageal pouch than in the trachea during dissectionOpen
StatementIf CO2 skyrockets on ET tube during thoracoscopy, this indicates a hole in the trachea as CO2 from thoracoscopy goes up the trachea and out the endotracheal tubeOpen
QuotationYou would much rather put a hole in the esophageal pouch than in the trachea.Open
StatementFoker procedure uses traction sutures brought out through chest wall with sequential tightening, as traction is a stimulus for esophageal growthOpen
StatementPrimary Foker cases spent more than 1 month in ICU on average and were paralyzed for more than 2 weeksOpen
StatementIn primary Foker cases, esophagus was successfully brought together 96% of the time, versus only 2/3 of the time in secondary cases after previous operationOpen
StatementSecondary Foker cases spent mean of 110 days in ICU and were paralyzed for more than 1 monthOpen
StatementMost common esophageal replacement is gastric pull-up, but other options include reverse gastric tube, colon interposition, and duodenal interposition, with none being clearly better than othersOpen
QuotationI would say that none is any better than the other.Open
StatementReverse gastric tube is created from greater curve of stomach and requires preserving gastroepiploic artery when placing initial G-tube, but has many problemsOpen
StatementColon interposition advantage is tremendous length, allowing anastomosis to pharynx in caustic ingestion cases with no remaining esophagusOpen
StatementColon interposition conduits can be revised despite teaching that revision damages blood supplyOpen
QuotationWe were taught initially that these are hard to revise because you damage the blood supply to the colon, but that's actually not true.Open
StatementBiggest challenge with colon interposition is that conduits dilate and elongate over time, with food collecting and not emptyingOpen
StatementIn institutional series of first 13 colon interpositions, 12 of 13 patients were NPO at presentation, with no graft loss after initial caseOpen
StatementPosterior tracheopexy involves putting sutures into membranous trachea to hold it back for tracheomalacia managementOpen
StatementWhen performing initial repair with field already dissected, placing 3 posterior tracheopexy stitches takes 15 minutes and avoids need to operate through previously operated field laterOpen
QuotationAs surgeons, we're frequently trained that we need to be the captain of the ship, and it's all about us, and we need to do everything. And one of the best things that happened to me when I came here and started doing these esophageal cases was partnering with our ENT group.Open
Daniel's statements about Wilms Tumor11 statements
StatementAdrenal hemorrhage is the most common cause of prenatal suprarenal mass, especially with history of fetal stressOpen
StatementThe GetNucturne study showed that prenatal/neonatal neuroblastomas can be safely observed with careful ultrasound surveillance, with many patients spared surgeryOpen
StatementLymph node status in neuroblastoma does not change therapy, unlike Wilms tumorOpen
StatementApproximately 10% of neuroblastomas are not MIBG-avid, which is when PET scan may be usefulOpen
StatementTumor shrinkage in neuroblastoma plateaus after cycle 2-3 of chemotherapy per LaQuaglia and Von Allman studiesOpen
StatementCOG high-risk study showed >90% resection improved event-free survival but not overall survival (approximately 245 patients)Open
StatementEuropean neuroblastoma group study (approximately 1000 cases) showed >90% resection improved both event-free survival and overall survivalOpen
StatementApproximately 70% of high-risk neuroblastoma patients can achieve >90% resectionOpen
StatementNeuroblastoma theoretically does not invade vessel adventitia, though invasion has been observedOpen
StatementThere is zero correlation between surgeon operative note description of resection extent and post-operative imaging findingsOpen
QuotationThere is zero correlation, zero. There is absolutely no correlation between the findings on post-op imaging and the findings that are reported in the op note.Open
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Recaps of other experts' statements, not Daniel's own clinical position.
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Appendicitis14 summaries
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Biliary Atresia14 summaries
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Colorectal / ARM & Hirschsprung7 summaries
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Enterocolitis1 summary
Tracheoesophageal Fistula with Dr. Daniel von Allmen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: I think credit to Rusty Jennings in Boston and Dr. Folker, who is the consultant there with them. They published a series a year ago or so in JPS looking at their results, and, and it was a very carefully well documented report of their results, and the data are striking if you Have a patient who has a primary atresia that you address, then in 98% of patients they're able to get the two ends of the esophagus together. In contrast, if it's a patient who's had previous surgeries and it's a secondary approach, then only 2/3 of those patients ever get the esophagus together.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Rusty Jennings and Dr. Foker published data showing 98% success rate getting esophageal ends together in primary atresia, but only 67% success in secondary approaches after previous surgeries.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Foker technique requires patients to be intubated and paralyzed for weeks in ICU, which is significant cost but may be worth it for good result.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: The Atlanta group uses a hanging stitch technique: first stitch between the two ends is brought out through the chest to hold anastomosis up in the air for subsequent stitches, similar to duodenal atresia repair.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Transanastomotic tubes are not used based on Midwest Pediatric Surgical Consortium data showing much higher stricture and leak rates in patients with transanastomotic tubes.Open
Tracheoesophageal Fistula with Dr. Daniel von Allmen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Atlanta group uses stay stitch between two ends brought out of chest to hold anastomosis up for subsequent stitches, similar to duodenal atresia techniqueOpen
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Etiologies (Gastroschisis/NEC/Atresia/Volvulus)7 summaries
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Fetal Surgery10 summaries
Treatment for Long Gap Esophageal Atresia: Esophageal Elongation and Replacement
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: There was a great article published by the Boston Group 2015. Divides the cases into two groups, a primary group and a secondary group. Secondary being patients who had had operations previously in the primary group, being cases that they saw de novo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: But these procedures are not without some morbidity. And you look at the ICU stay is a median of 70 days with a couple of weeks being paralyzed for the primary group and 110 days for the secondary group with a month of being paralyzed.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, about two thirds of patients with primary repair were able to get full oral nutrition and about 10% of patients who had secondary repair achieved full oral nutrition.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, the primary group had a median ICU stay of 70 days with a couple of weeks being paralyzed, and the secondary group had a median ICU stay of 110 days with a month of being paralyzed.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, the primary group (de novo cases) achieved an intact esophagus in 96% of patients, while the secondary group (patients with previous operations) achieved this in about two thirds of patients.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: About two thirds of patients with the primary repair were able to get the full oral nutrition and about 10% of the patients who had the secondary repair.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Obviously, you look at the result of getting the esophagus together and intact esophagus in 96% of patients in the primary group, about two thirds of patients in the secondary group.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: The surgical group from INOEA recommends gastric pull up as the first option for esophageal replacement, dividing the esophageal stump at the esophageal hiatus and mobilizing the fundus to pull it up in either the anterior or posterior mediastinum.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: You could use the stomach. That would be called a gastric transposition. The surgical group from the INOEA, their recommendation, the recommendation for the first option is a gastric pull up.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: You divide the esophageal stump at the esophageal hiatus and mobilize the fundus and pull the fundus up and you can pull it up either in the anterior or posterior mediastinum.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Gastroesophageal Reflux3 summaries
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: In adult literature, after about 15 years almost all fundoplications are undoneOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: If you look at the adult literature for fund application, after about 15 years, almost all of them are, are, are undone. And so I don't know why we think that ours is going to be any different. We just don't follow our patients past 18.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Neurologically impaired patients do worse than neurologically normal patients after fundoplication according to historical dataOpen
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease3 summaries
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: In adult literature, after about 15 years almost all fundoplications are undoneOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: If you look at the adult literature for fund application, after about 15 years, almost all of them are, are, are undone. And so I don't know why we think that ours is going to be any different. We just don't follow our patients past 18.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Neurologically impaired patients do worse than neurologically normal patients after fundoplication according to historical dataOpen
Summaries Daniel gave as host · High-risk Neuroblastoma13 summaries
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Memorial Sloan Kettering data suggests biggest volume response of neuroblastoma tumor occurs with first two cycles of chemotherapy, with very little response after thatOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: German study of 278 stage 4 high-risk neuroblastoma patients achieved complete resection in almost half and >90% resection in another quarter (75% total with >90% resection)Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: German study showed overall survival 45%, event-free survival 33%, and local progression-free survival 58% in stage 4 neuroblastomaOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: German study showed no difference in overall survival, event-free survival, or local progression-free survival based on completeness of resection in stage 4 neuroblastomaOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: German study concluded aggressive surgery is not justified in stage 4 neuroblastoma, that limited operations decrease complications, and there is limited impact on patient outcomeOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European study included 1,324 high-risk neuroblastoma patients (stages 2, 3, and 4) and achieved 76% with >95% resectionOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European neuroblastoma study showed 0.5% mortality and 10% morbidity (30% including lesser complications)Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European study showed significant improvement in event-free survival and overall survival with aggressive resection in high-risk neuroblastoma - first study to show overall survival benefitOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European study concluded >95% resection results in improvement in event-free survival in high-risk neuroblastomaOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: COG 3973 study of approximately 230 high-risk neuroblastoma patients showed significant improvement in local relapse-free survival and event-free survival but not overall survivalOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European neuroblastoma procedures are performed in more than 200 hospitals yet still demonstrated survival improvementsOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Older data shows worse survival in neuroblastoma when kidney is removed, likely because single kidney limits chemotherapy dosingOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: If you can't be informed, be opinionatedOpen
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Intestinal Failure14 summaries
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Intestinal Rehab14 summaries
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Intestinal Transplant7 summaries
Biliary Atresia, Appendicitis, Intestinal Failure, and Anesthetic...
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The START trial randomized 140 infants with biliary atresia to high-dose steroids (IV for 2 weeks, oral for 2 weeks, taper over 9 weeks) versus placebo within 72 hours of Kasai portoenterostomy.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The primary outcome was serum total bilirubin <1.5 mg/dL with native liver at 6 months post-Kasai; the study was powered to detect a 25% absolute treatment difference.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: High-dose steroid therapy after Kasai did not result in a statistically significant treatment difference in bile drainage at 6 months: 58.6% in the steroid group versus 48.6% in placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Survival without liver transplant at 24 months was not statistically different: 58.7% for steroids versus 49.4% for placebo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Adverse events were common in both groups (near 80%), largely reflecting severe underlying liver dysfunction; steroid treatment was associated with earlier onset of serious adverse events.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the paper, and I believe them, feel that anything less than a 25% difference is probably not worth the potential risk of the early complications associated with the steroids.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: The authors of the START trial believe anything less than a 25% difference in bile drainage is not worth the potential early complications of steroids.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Long-gap Esophageal Atresia10 summaries
Treatment for Long Gap Esophageal Atresia: Esophageal Elongation and Replacement
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, about two thirds of patients with primary repair were able to get full oral nutrition and about 10% of patients who had secondary repair achieved full oral nutrition.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, the primary group had a median ICU stay of 70 days with a couple of weeks being paralyzed, and the secondary group had a median ICU stay of 110 days with a month of being paralyzed.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, the primary group (de novo cases) achieved an intact esophagus in 96% of patients, while the secondary group (patients with previous operations) achieved this in about two thirds of patients.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: About two thirds of patients with the primary repair were able to get the full oral nutrition and about 10% of the patients who had the secondary repair.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: But these procedures are not without some morbidity. And you look at the ICU stay is a median of 70 days with a couple of weeks being paralyzed for the primary group and 110 days for the secondary group with a month of being paralyzed.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Obviously, you look at the result of getting the esophagus together and intact esophagus in 96% of patients in the primary group, about two thirds of patients in the secondary group.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: There was a great article published by the Boston Group 2015. Divides the cases into two groups, a primary group and a secondary group. Secondary being patients who had had operations previously in the primary group, being cases that they saw de novo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: You could use the stomach. That would be called a gastric transposition. The surgical group from the INOEA, their recommendation, the recommendation for the first option is a gastric pull up.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: You divide the esophageal stump at the esophageal hiatus and mobilize the fundus and pull the fundus up and you can pull it up either in the anterior or posterior mediastinum.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: The surgical group from INOEA recommends gastric pull up as the first option for esophageal replacement, dividing the esophageal stump at the esophageal hiatus and mobilizing the fundus to pull it up in either the anterior or posterior mediastinum.Open
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Neuroblastoma13 summaries
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Memorial Sloan Kettering data suggests biggest volume response of neuroblastoma tumor occurs with first two cycles of chemotherapy, with very little response after thatOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: German study of 278 stage 4 high-risk neuroblastoma patients achieved complete resection in almost half and >90% resection in another quarter (75% total with >90% resection)Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: German study showed overall survival 45%, event-free survival 33%, and local progression-free survival 58% in stage 4 neuroblastomaOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: German study showed no difference in overall survival, event-free survival, or local progression-free survival based on completeness of resection in stage 4 neuroblastomaOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: German study concluded aggressive surgery is not justified in stage 4 neuroblastoma, that limited operations decrease complications, and there is limited impact on patient outcomeOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European study included 1,324 high-risk neuroblastoma patients (stages 2, 3, and 4) and achieved 76% with >95% resectionOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European neuroblastoma study showed 0.5% mortality and 10% morbidity (30% including lesser complications)Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European study showed significant improvement in event-free survival and overall survival with aggressive resection in high-risk neuroblastoma - first study to show overall survival benefitOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European study concluded >95% resection results in improvement in event-free survival in high-risk neuroblastomaOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: COG 3973 study of approximately 230 high-risk neuroblastoma patients showed significant improvement in local relapse-free survival and event-free survival but not overall survivalOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: European neuroblastoma procedures are performed in more than 200 hospitals yet still demonstrated survival improvementsOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: Older data shows worse survival in neuroblastoma when kidney is removed, likely because single kidney limits chemotherapy dosingOpen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing the discussion: If you can't be informed, be opinionatedOpen
Summaries Daniel gave as host · Tracheoesophageal Fistula16 summaries
Tracheoesophageal Fistula with Dr. Daniel von Allmen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: I think credit to Rusty Jennings in Boston and Dr. Folker, who is the consultant there with them. They published a series a year ago or so in JPS looking at their results, and, and it was a very carefully well documented report of their results, and the data are striking if you Have a patient who has a primary atresia that you address, then in 98% of patients they're able to get the two ends of the esophagus together. In contrast, if it's a patient who's had previous surgeries and it's a secondary approach, then only 2/3 of those patients ever get the esophagus together.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Rusty Jennings and Dr. Foker published data showing 98% success rate getting esophageal ends together in primary atresia, but only 67% success in secondary approaches after previous surgeries.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Foker technique requires patients to be intubated and paralyzed for weeks in ICU, which is significant cost but may be worth it for good result.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: The Atlanta group uses a hanging stitch technique: first stitch between the two ends is brought out through the chest to hold anastomosis up in the air for subsequent stitches, similar to duodenal atresia repair.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Transanastomotic tubes are not used based on Midwest Pediatric Surgical Consortium data showing much higher stricture and leak rates in patients with transanastomotic tubes.Open
Tracheoesophageal Fistula with Dr. Daniel von Allmen
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Atlanta group uses stay stitch between two ends brought out of chest to hold anastomosis up for subsequent stitches, similar to duodenal atresia techniqueOpen
Treatment for Long Gap Esophageal Atresia: Esophageal Elongation and Replacement
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: There was a great article published by the Boston Group 2015. Divides the cases into two groups, a primary group and a secondary group. Secondary being patients who had had operations previously in the primary group, being cases that they saw de novo.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: About two thirds of patients with the primary repair were able to get the full oral nutrition and about 10% of the patients who had the secondary repair.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: But these procedures are not without some morbidity. And you look at the ICU stay is a median of 70 days with a couple of weeks being paralyzed for the primary group and 110 days for the secondary group with a month of being paralyzed.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: Obviously, you look at the result of getting the esophagus together and intact esophagus in 96% of patients in the primary group, about two thirds of patients in the secondary group.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, the primary group (de novo cases) achieved an intact esophagus in 96% of patients, while the secondary group (patients with previous operations) achieved this in about two thirds of patients.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, the primary group had a median ICU stay of 70 days with a couple of weeks being paralyzed, and the secondary group had a median ICU stay of 110 days with a month of being paralyzed.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: In the Boston Group 2015 study, about two thirds of patients with primary repair were able to get full oral nutrition and about 10% of patients who had secondary repair achieved full oral nutrition.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: The surgical group from INOEA recommends gastric pull up as the first option for esophageal replacement, dividing the esophageal stump at the esophageal hiatus and mobilizing the fundus to pull it up in either the anterior or posterior mediastinum.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: You could use the stomach. That would be called a gastric transposition. The surgical group from the INOEA, their recommendation, the recommendation for the first option is a gastric pull up.Open
Host summaryDaniel von Allmen summarizing a resource: You divide the esophageal stump at the esophageal hiatus and mobilize the fundus and pull the fundus up and you can pull it up either in the anterior or posterior mediastinum.Open